Very Vintage decal sets question

[ranma]

I have three sets of some very old decal set's First set: Made by Del-D-Cal MFG.Co # 9216_LW3P. they have skull's over checkered flags, Custom Special , Gator on a set of wheels, pin striping and 6 small flames.... Set #2  Polycal "N"  NA-27091 set of four flames....... Set #3 The Palm Brothers Decalcomania Co. GL-51144 Checkered flags,  Fuel injection, Air Lift, 300 H.P. 400 H.P. blank champion spark plug bowtie in oval And the number 68.... what kit's did these go to, and how rare are these????

Edited June 2, 2020 by ranma

[Casey]

They don't appear to be decal sheets included with any model kit, but rather aftermarket sheets.

[ranma]

9 minutes ago, Casey said:

They don't appear to be decal sheets included with any model kit, but rather aftermarket sheets.

Found out the one with the skull's over the checkered flag is a rare set from a Jo Han kit made in 1960. So I'm thinking that the set with the # 68's maybe either Jo Han ,smp or amt. ones..

[gtx6970]

the flame sheet reminds me of some found in the very early annuals.

[ranma]

found on the web, say's the ones with the skull/checkered flags is a rare set from 1960 and worth $20.00 by their selves??

[ranma]

49 minutes ago, Casey said:

decal sheets

The onse with the skull over the checkered flag appear to be made for a '30's ford coupe??? the rectangle pinstripe set would cover the canvas roof area???

[Snake45]

I've seen a simple blister-packed model of a Ford roadster sold in the '50s or '60s--might have been powered by an electric motor, or maybe a rubber band or something. Could one of the sheets have been from that? 

[Casey]

31 minutes ago, ranma said:

The ones with the skull over the checkered flag appear to be made for a '30's ford coupe??? the rectangle pinstripe set would cover the canvas roof area???

Here's a 1960 JO-Han box on ebay, and it shows a similar sheet, so I think you are correct that it's from an early JO-HAN kit:

[espo]

These look like some of the generic decal sheets from some of the early SMP, AMT, and the JoHan kits. In the late '50's they wouldn't always use decals specific to the kit. Should you be thinking of using them just know that the chance of them transferring to a model are 50 - 50 at best. I would suggest either getting them scanned and reprinted on decal paper or look at Gofer and some of the other decal offerings out there. I have used a few from Gofer have many of the same style and even a greater verity of pin striping.   

[mr moto]

I have definitely had two of those sheets in the past and MIGHT still have at least one of them. The sheet with the  "Air Lifts" ,  etc. is an old AMT sheet that was in use in 1959 for sure and maybe in '58 or '60 also. It may also have been in SMP kits also.

The "skulls" and "dragons" sheet is a JoHan and it may still be in the box of a 1960 Chrysler kit that I'm the original owner of. I'll try to look for it tomorrow. BTW, I got the Chrysler kit around 1966-67 as a hobby shop clearance item for $1.00. I thought that was a little high for such an old kit but I got it anyway. They had a LOT of Johan's on closeout but I only got the one. If I had only known!

Edited June 2, 2020 by mr moto
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[StevenGuthmiller]

54 minutes ago, Casey said:

Here's a 1960 JO-Han box on ebay, and it shows a similar sheet, so I think you are correct that it's from an early JO-HAN kit:

It is a Johan set.

Same set as 1961

This set is from the Johan 1961 Plymouth Fury.

First $20.00 can have it!

 

 

 

 

 

Steve

[StevenGuthmiller]

Here are a few other sets that I scrounged up.

I can tell you which kits these came from, but does anybody want to make a game of it and guess?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Steve

[Straightliner59]

1 hour ago, StevenGuthmiller said:

It is a Johan set.

Same set as 1961

This set is from the Johan 1961 Plymouth Fury.

First $20.00 can have it!

 

 

 

 

 

 

Steve

Aha! That explains why it looks so familiar. At one time, I had  a Johan '60 Rambler. I might still have the sheet, in my big-box-o-decals.

[Casey]

4 hours ago, ranma said:

 

I think this sheet might be from a 1958 AMT kit, as the '59 annual sheets have 188 instead of 68/89, and the AMT 1958 Pontiac Bonneville shows those exact 68 and Custom Special decals used on the side of the box:

 

Compare with the AMT 1959 Buick sheet below:

Edited June 2, 2020 by Casey

[mk11]

While we're playing around here, does anyone remember where this one came from? Definitely amt... area above 'lighting bird' sez 'tuned by the medicine man'

 

Edited June 2, 2020 by mk11

[Casey]

Backdside

8 hours ago, mk11 said:

While we're playing around here, does anyone remember where this one came from? Definitely amt... area above 'lighting bird' sez 'tuned by the medicine man'

Does the backside look like this?:

 

AMT 1963 Pontiac Bonneville Convertible:

[gtx6970]

15 hours ago, StevenGuthmiller said:

Here are a few other sets that I scrounged up.

I can tell you which kits these came from, but does anybody want to make a game of it and guess?

Johan 1964 Plymouth

Mpc. 1968 coronet rt

Johan 1963 Chrysler 300 ?

 

[mk11]

14 hours ago, Casey said:

 

Does the backside look like this?:

 

AMT 1963 Pontiac Bonneville Convertible:

Yessir        Thanks!

... kinda thinkin' these might deserve a home on some kind of pontiac panel; either a conversion of the revell '53/'54 or maybe a '65 chevelle resin delivery with a gto front clip...  hmmmm

Edited June 3, 2020 by mk11

[StevenGuthmiller]

5 hours ago, gtx6970 said:

 

You did well Bill!

The first set is indeed from the Johan '64 Plymouth Fury, but as stated by others in this thread, I believe that the same decals were included in other kits.

I have the same set in my Johan '65 Plymouth kit as well.

 

The '68 Coronet one was pretty easy.

 

The last one could have also been a generic set included in other models, but in this case, it was not a Johan 300, but an SMP 1960 Chrysler Imperial.

 

 

 

 

Steve

[gtx6970]

35 minutes ago, StevenGuthmiller said:

You did well Bill!

The first set is indeed from the Johan '64 Plymouth Fury, but as stated by others in this thread, I believe that the same decals were included in other kits.

I have the same set in my Johan '65 Plymouth kit as well.

 

The '68 Coronet one was pretty easy.

 

The last one could have also been a generic set included in other models, but in this case, it was not a Johan 300, but an SMP 1960 Chrysler Imperial

Steve

I wasnt real sure about the last one. But have to give it a guess all the same

 

Must be hardtop Fury.

Ive seen these in all the convertible kits Ive come across, ( none in my budget btw )

[StevenGuthmiller]

3 hours ago, gtx6970 said:

Must be hardtop Fury.

Ive seen these in all the convertible kits Ive come across, ( none in my budget btw )

 

I assume that the kits had different decals.

While I see no mention of the "Golden Commando" decals on the box art, it does feature the Petty #43 decals.

 

 

 

Just in case anyone is interested, here are the answers to the other sheets in question.

 

Generic 1961 AMT kit decals.

This set came from a '61 Bonneville kit

 

 

MPC 1966 Pontiac Bonneville

 

 

 

 

AMT 1962 Chevrolet Apache Pickup.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Steve