427 Ford SOHC engine source

[Force]

IMHO the best looking 427 SOHC so far is in the AMT 33 Willys kits, the one in the MPC Malco Gasser isn't that bad either, the one in the AMT 66 Galaxie is also workable.
The SOHC from the Jo-Han Maverick is a hybrid as it shares the engine block and heads with the Boss 429, it does not do that in the real world...the 427 SOHC is based on the FE family and the Boss 429 is based on the 385 family, two completely different engines, the valve covers/cam covers are not the correct shape and the plug holes are not in the right spots ( a common fault with many model kit SOHC's)...but on the other hand...no kit SOHC is perfect.

But this thread is kind of old...allmost 10 years...so the original poster has probably allready chosen the engine.
 

[Impalow]

 

IMHO the best looking 427 SOHC so far is in the AMT 33 Willys kits, the one in the MPC Malco Gasser isn't that bad either, the one in the AMT 66 Galaxie is also workable.
The SOHC from the Jo-Han Maverick is a hybrid as it shares the engine block and heads with the Boss 429, it does not do that in the real world...the 427 SOHC is based on the FE family and the Boss 429 is based on the 385 family, two completely different engines, the valve covers/cam covers are not the correct shape and the plug holes are not in the right spots ( a common fault with many model kit SOHC's)...but on the other hand...no kit SOHC is perfect.

But this thread is kind of old...allmost 10 years...so the original poster has probably allready chosen the engine.
 

Yeah.. im currently fighting this battle... I have the 33 willys, the malco gasser, and  the polar lights (round2) tommy grove mustang funny car...  All seem to be similar and decent, but the cam covers on all 3 lack the fat smoothness of the real thing.  I'm trying to decide how much I care about the realistic look,  although now that I've noticed how far they are off it really bothers me.   Ill probably play around with trying to make them more like the 1:1.. It stinks I havent found anything aftermarket/kit that is better. 

Edited July 15, 2016 by Impalow

[69NovaYenko]

Could a blue tinted water slide decal imprinted with the appropriate number of fins, FMCO logo and 427 SOHC  script be used resolve the issue...just throwing that out into the universe as a thought.

[Straightliner59]

I recall a discussion with Don Fahrni and Tom Hardy, years ago, about the Cammer, and best way to model it. We concluded that the only way to build an accurate replica, is through kitbashing. I don't remember all the specifics, but, the conclusion was that the best cam covers were from Monogram's T'rantula.

[Casey]

On 3/31/2007 at 8:44 PM, Guest zebm1 said:

The AMT 1965 A/FX drag racers have 427 SOHCs.

Here's a close-up look at the SOHC valve covers from the AMT '65 Mustang AWB kit:

 

Here's a good shot of the real valve cover:

 

If a scale valve cover doesn't have those clearance 'bumps' at the bottom edge of the valve cover, I would immediately rule it out.

13 hours ago, Straightliner59 said:

the best cam covers were from Monogram's T'rantula.

Here's the 1/24 scale T'rantula's left valve cover, which I would agree this is the best version in scale:

 

Has anybody tried the T'rantula's 1/24 scale valve cover(s) and other parts on one of the better 1/25 scale Ford  FE-series engines (Revell '64 Tbolt, AMT '60 Ford Starliner, etc.)?

[Deuces]

I haven't built that kit since "73 er '74.....

Wish I still had it....

[Deuces]

Here's some Cammer pictures I posted on the H.A.M.B.

[Casey]

On 7/11/2007 at 11:55 PM, didgeytrucker said:

The AMT Lil' Gasser, Lil' Yeller and Lil' Mixer have Cammers.

Can anyone comment on the accuracy of the SOHC valve covers in the AMT School Bus kit? I'm assuming these are the same as found in the above three mentioned kits, but based upon the drawings in the instructions, I don't hold out much hope the valve covers are very accurate:

[Old Nasty]

On 7/11/2016 at 7:47 PM, landman said:

Paul I have three. Think one of them might work?

I believe the valve covers on the one in the middle are backwards but nice looking engines none the less.

[landman]

16 minutes ago, Old Nasty said:

I believe the valve covers on the one in the middle are backwards but nice looking engines none the less.

Front to back?

[Old Nasty]

22 minutes ago, landman said:

Front to back?

Yes.

[landman]

29 minutes ago, Old Nasty said:

Yes.

OK thanks.

 

On 9/25/2018 at 7:42 PM, Deuces said:

Here's some Cammer pictures I posted on the H.A.M.B.

 

 

 

 

 

What carbs are these?

[Ace-Garageguy]

13 minutes ago, landman said:

...What carbs are these?

Modified 2-barrel Holleys, mounted 90⁰ differently from what you normally see, with somewhat unusual center-hung float bowls.

Edited October 26, 2018 by Ace-Garageguy

[Deuces]

Those are old Nascar Ford float bowls that Holley made up... They might be the same ones that came on the '65-'66 Shelby GT-350s...

Edited October 26, 2018 by Deuces

[STYRENE-SURFER]

I see no mention of the new Moebius/Model King 1965 Mercury Cyclone A/FX kit motor.

I did post on the car kit news & reviews thread, but no one answered my question

about the valve covers.

It looks good to me. Better than most of the examples in my kit stash anyway.

[High octane]

How 'bout the Revell Parts Paks Ford 427 cu. in. motor?

[Ace-Garageguy]

1 hour ago, High octane said:

How 'bout the Revell Parts Paks Ford 427 cu. in. motor?

It's the right FE bottom end, but the pushrod heads, timing cover, and intake are entirely different.

One of my upcoming projects is to fit some of the available cammer bits to the old Revell FE, to see what will make the MOST accurate appearing model.

[STYRENE-SURFER]

1 hour ago, Ace-Garageguy said:

It's the right FE bottom end, but the pushrod heads, timing cover, and intake are entirely different.

One of my upcoming projects is to fit some of the available cammer bits to the old Revell FE, to see what will make the MOST accurate appearing model.

I don't get it, there is a new version of this engine by Moebius/Model King, I've yet to see comparisons with other examples as to the accuracy of it.

Have commented on this before and would like to hear what the EXPERTS here have to think about it All of the ones being compared here

seem to have one problem or another.

[Ace-Garageguy]

55 minutes ago, STYRENE-SURFER said:

I don't get it, there is a new version of this engine by Moebius/Model King, I've yet to see comparisons with other examples as to the accuracy of it.

Have commented on this before and would like to hear what the EXPERTS here have to think about it All of the ones being compared here

seem to have one problem or another.

In the Moebius Comet A/FX thread, the built-up engine from the top is decidedly underwhelming, in my opinion. Several issues, the most blatant being the nonsensical configuration of the intake port runners. The rocker covers don't really look right either...too tall, too angular.

On the box-photo of the engine, the sculpting of the lower edge of the valve covers appears to be exaggerated, which is common among almost all of the others available, and the exhaust port spacing appears to be incorrect as well.

EDIT: Here's a thread on FORD SOHC intake manifolds. Nothing remotely similar to the Moebuis unit, which frankly, just looks like some vaguely-sculpted engine-looking thingy, done by somebody who doesn't know what an intake manifold does.

http://fepower.net/simplemachinesforum/index.php?topic=2692.0

Edited October 26, 2018 by Ace-Garageguy

[STYRENE-SURFER]

1 hour ago, Ace-Garageguy said:

In the Moebius Comet A/FX thread, the built-up engine from the top is decidedly underwhelming, in my opinion. Several issues, the most blatant being the nonsensical configuration of the intake port runners. The rocker covers don't really look right either...too tall, too angular.

On the box-photo of the engine, the sculpting of the lower edge of the valve covers appears to be exaggerated, which is common among almost all of the others available, and the exhaust port spacing appears to be incorrect as well.

EDIT: Here's a thread on FORD SOHC intake manifolds. Nothing remotely similar to the Moebuis unit, which frankly, just looks like some vaguely-sculpted engine-looking thingy, done by somebody who doesn't know what an intake manifold does.

http://fepower.net/simplemachinesforum/index.php?topic=2692.0

Bill, Thanx, I was wondering what you're opinion was on this. Yup, the valve covers appear kind of blocky and simplistic. didn't notice the incorrect exhaust spacing. 

It's amazing to me how many attempts have failed at reproducing this engine in scale.  

[Deuces ll]

[Ace-Garageguy]

^^^  Great photos. I need to build that thing. And the distributor drive is particularly interesting...

[Ace-Garageguy]

On 10/26/2018 at 8:55 PM, STYRENE-SURFER said:

...It's amazing to me how many attempts have failed at reproducing this engine in scale.  

Bottom line: we've got a lot of people who don't know squat about engines doing tooling for models.

[Deuces ll]

4 hours ago, Ace-Garageguy said:

^^^  Great photos. I need to build that thing. And the distributor drive is particularly interesting...

Oh, yeah... I failed to mention that I got those off the hamb.... There's a whole thread dedicated to the Cammer 427... And also a 4 minute video of that^^^^^Comet idling... Sweeeeeeet music!... ?? 

Sorry I can't post videos.... ?

Edited August 10, 2020 by Deuces ll

[mad mike]

So what would you think about this 3d printed one? 1/24 scale.