Modlbldr Posted May 7, 2011 Posted May 7, 2011 I have a bottle of Testors lacquer Chrysler Engine red and painted it on my 383 but it looks, as the bottle says, red instead of the orange like I see on the 1:1 photos of the 383's. Is this the right color for the engine? I can't find any paints at the LHS that are listed as Chrysler engine ORANGE, so I would think this is the color. But it doesn't look right. I didn't want to buy a spray can of Hemi Orange for $6.99, but it looked like a closer color. What do you think? Later-
highway Posted May 7, 2011 Posted May 7, 2011 Tom, I'm not sure on the red, but you couldn't go wrong with the Hemi Orange in the spray can. I used it on the body and engine of my 09 Challenger, and without the clear it looks pretty good in my opinion on the engine. I don't have a pic of the front half of the interior and body together, but I also used no clear on the inner fender area, and it does give a differt look compared to the clearcoated body. Hope this helps.
mrmike Posted May 7, 2011 Posted May 7, 2011 I have to presume that you are going by the kit painting instructions that call for Chrysler Engine Red and I have to tell you that the instructions are wrong. If you want to stick to hobby paints, use Model Master International Orange for street Hemis as it is very close. I use actual Mopar engine enamel for my Mopar model engines and those paints are available from Summit Racing. A full can should cost you about $9.00 without shipping. Don't bother going to a Dodge dealership as they do not carry the paint and are very relunctant to order it for you.
Casey Posted May 7, 2011 Posted May 7, 2011 I have a bottle of Testors lacquer Chrysler Engine red and painted it on my 383 but it looks, as the bottle says, red instead of the orange like I see on the 1:1 photos of the 383's. Is this the right color for the engine? I can't find any paints at the LHS that are listed as Chrysler engine ORANGE, so I would think this is the color. But it doesn't look right. I didn't want to buy a spray can of Hemi Orange for $6.99, but it looked like a closer color. What do you think? Later- Yes, the Chrysler Engine Red is too red. Use Hemi Orange as it's much closer to the real orange color IMHO. I haven't purchased any on a while, but AutoZone, Advance Auto, etc. had the engine colored spray paints in 12 oz cans for $6.99 or so, and a can of that will last forty Mopar model engines or so.
charlie8575 Posted May 7, 2011 Posted May 7, 2011 Remember, the non-HP engines were turquoise or red. High-performance engines were orange. Working off a Yahoo! model builder's group, I helped edit and clean-up a Big Three & AMC engine color guide. I'll be happy to e-Mail you a copy if you'd like one. I can't promise this is 100% right, but it's the best I could do with the information I had. Charlie Larkin
DRG Posted May 7, 2011 Posted May 7, 2011 I could be wrong but if memory serves me right the 383 was painted turquoise.
ChrisPflug Posted May 7, 2011 Posted May 7, 2011 Depends on the application- 69-71 HP 383s were Street Hemi Orange (although some A/C equipped were turquoise) "Regular" non HP 383s were turquoise
Keef Posted May 7, 2011 Posted May 7, 2011 (edited) copied from this website: http://www.turbinecar.com/misc/enginecolor.htm Below is what I have come up with as a good start to find the correct engine color for Mopar engines from 1960 to 1973. After about 1969 they were all pretty much Blue except for a few odd balls. I have seen Slant sixes in Black in the early 60's sales brochures but those are not the best source. I have used information from the Plymouth Owner's club, Walter P. Chrysler Club and various web sites to assemble this list. Engine colors were and still are subject of much debate. It seems no one at the factory really cared about any kind of specification for paint - as long as it got painted - it was ok. These are what I have found to be considered normal or standard - if there is such a thing. Your comments are welcome - however be prepared to back up your arguments with facts from somewhere. I would hope this will be a help to those who are trying to restore their classic Mopar to as near original as possible. The paint numbers are from Mopar Performance and may or may not be available from your local dealer. Year Engine Variations Color Note 1960 170 / 225 Six non Valiant Turquoise Mopar Paint P4120752 - Not sure about this color. 1960 170 Six Valiant Red Mopar Paint P4349218 1960 318 Poly All Silver Mopar Paint P4529148 1960 361 Golden Commando High Perf Red/Gold Red block with Gold Valve Covers P4349218 / P4529149 1961 All All Silver Mopar Paint P4529148 1961 170 Six Valiant Red Mopar Paint P4349218 1962 170 / 225 Six All Red Mopar Paint P4349218 1962 318 Poly All Red Mopar Paint P4349218 1962 361 V8 All Turquoise Mopar Paint P4120752 1962 383 V8 All Turquoise Mopar Paint P4120752 1962 413 V8 All Orange Mopar Paint P4120751 1963 225 Six All Red Mopar Paint P4349218 1963 318 Poly All Red Mopar Paint P4349218 1963 361 V8 All Turquoise Mopar Paint P4120752 1963 383 V8 All Turquoise Mopar Paint P4120752 1963 413 V8 All Orange Mopar Paint P4120751 1963 426 V8 All Orange Mopar Paint P4120751 1964 225 Six All Red Mopar Paint P4349218 1964 273 V8 - LA All Red Mopar Paint P4349218 1964 318 Poly All Red Mopar Paint P4349218 1964 361 V8 All Turquoise Mopar Paint P4120752 1964 383 V8 All Turquoise Mopar Paint P4120752 1964 413 V8 All Turquoise Mopar Paint P4120752 1964 413 V8 Race Engine Race only Orange Mopar Paint P4120751 1964 426 HEMI Race only Orange Mopar Paint P4120751 1964 426 V8 All Turquoise Mopar Paint P4120752 1965 225 Six All Red Mopar Paint P4349218 1965 273 V8 - LA All Red Mopar Paint P4349218 1965 318 Poly All Red Mopar Paint P4349218 1965 383 V8 All Turquoise Mopar Paint P4120752 1965 413 V8 All Orange Mopar Paint P4120751 1965 426 HEMI Street Engine H-Orange Mopar Paint P4349216 1966 225 Six All Red Mopar Paint P4349218 1966 273 V8 - LA All Red Mopar Paint P4349218 1966 318 Poly All Red Mopar Paint P4349218 1966 383 V8 All Turquoise Mopar Paint P4120752 1966 383 V8 High Perf/Police High Perf H-Orange Mopar Paint P4349216 1966 426 HEMI Street Engine H-Orange Mopar Paint P4349216 1966 426 V8 All Turquoise Mopar Paint P4120752 1966 440 V8 All Turquoise Mopar Paint P4120752 1966 440 V8 High Perf/Police High Perf H-Orange Mopar Paint P4349216 1967 225 Six All Red Mopar Paint P4349218 1967 273 V8 - LA All Red Mopar Paint P4349218 1967 318 V8 - LA All Red Mopar Paint P4349218 1967 383 V8 All Turquoise Mopar Paint P4120752 1967 383 V8 High Perf/Police High Perf H-Orange Mopar Paint P4349216 1967 426 HEMI Street Engine H-Orange Mopar Paint P4349216 1967 426 V8 All Turquoise Mopar Paint P4120752 1967 440 V8 All Turquoise Mopar Paint P4120752 1967 440 V8 High Perf/Police High Perf H-Orange Mopar Paint P4349216 1968 225 Six All Red Mopar Paint P4349218 1968 273 V8 - LA All Red Mopar Paint P4349218 1968 318 V8 - LA All Red Mopar Paint P4349218 1968 318 V8 - LA - Police only Police engine H-Orange Mopar Paint P4349216 1968 340 V8 - LA All Red Mopar Paint P4349218 1968 383 V8 All Turquoise Mopar Paint P4120752 1968 383 V8 High Perf/Police High Perf H-Orange Mopar Paint P4349216 1968 426 HEMI Street Engine H-Orange Mopar Paint P4349216 1968 426 V8 All Turquoise Mopar Paint P4120752 1968 440 V8 All Turquoise Mopar Paint P4120752 1968 440 V8 High Perf/Police High Perf H-Orange Mopar Paint P4349216 1969 225 Six All Red Mopar Paint P4349218 1969 273 V8 - LA All Red Mopar Paint P4349218 1969 318 V8 - LA All Red Mopar Paint P4349218 1969 318 V8 - LA - Police only Police engine H-Orange Mopar Paint P4349216 1969 340 V8 - LA - See Note below All Red Mopar Paint P4349218 1969 383 V8 All Turquoise Mopar Paint P4120752 1969 383 V8 High Perf/Police High Perf H-Orange Mopar Paint P4349216 1969 426 HEMI Street Engine H-Orange Mopar Paint P4349216 1969 440 V8 All Turquoise Mopar Paint P4120752 1969 440 V8 High Perf/Police High Perf H-Orange Mopar Paint P4349216 1970 225 Six All Blue Mopar Paint P4349217 1970 318 V8 - LA All Blue Mopar Paint P4349217 1970 318 V8 - LA - Police only Police engine H-Orange Mopar Paint P4349216 1970 340 V8 - LA - See Note below All Red Mopar Paint P4349218 1970 383 V8 All Blue Mopar Paint P4349217 1970 383 V8 High Perf/Police High Perf H-Orange Mopar Paint P4349216 1970 426 HEMI Street Engine H-Orange Mopar Paint P4349216 1970 440 V8 All Blue or Turq Mopar Paint P4349217 or P4120752 (not sure) **** 1970 440 V8 High Perf/Police High Perf H-Orange Mopar Paint P4349216 1971 225 Six All Blue Mopar Paint P4349217 1971 318 V8 - LA All Blue Mopar Paint P4349217 1971 340 V8 - LA All Blue Mopar Paint P4349217 1971 360 V8 - LA All Blue Mopar Paint P4349217 1971 All - LA engines Till early in 1971 All Red Mopar Paint P4349217 1971 383 V8 All Blue Mopar Paint P4349218 (not sure when changed) 1971 383 V8 High Perf/Police High Perf H-Orange Mopar Paint P4349216 1971 426 HEMI Street Engine H-Orange Mopar Paint P4349216 1971 440 V8 All Blue or Turq Mopar Paint P4349217 or P4120752 (not sure) **** 1971 440 V8 High Perf/Police High Perf H-Orange Mopar Paint P4349216 1972 225 Six All Blue Mopar Paint P4349217 1972 318 V8 - LA All Blue Mopar Paint P4349217 1972 340 V8 - LA All Blue Mopar Paint P4349217 1972 360 V8 - LA All Blue Mopar Paint P4349217 1972 400 V8 All Blue Mopar Paint P4349217 1972 440 V8 All Blue Mopar Paint P4349217 1973 198 Six All Blue Mopar Paint P4349217 1973 225 Six All Blue Mopar Paint P4349217 1973 318 V8 - LA All Blue Mopar Paint P4349217 1973 340 V8 - LA All Blue Mopar Paint P4349217 1973 360 V8 - LA All Blue Mopar Paint P4349217 1973 400 V8 All Blue Mopar Paint P4349217 1973 440 V8 All Blue Mopar Paint P4349217 Edited May 7, 2011 by MrSuperbee70
Modlbldr Posted May 8, 2011 Author Posted May 8, 2011 (edited) I have to presume that you are going by the kit painting instructions that call for Chrysler Engine Red and I have to tell you that the instructions are wrong. If you want to stick to hobby paints, use Model Master International Orange for street Hemis as it is very close. Mike- I'm not worried about the kit instructions. I am matching a 1:1 car. I was just using the paint I had on hand and noticed that it wasn't as orange as the engine in the photo. Next, I was surprised to find that there was not any Chrysler Hemi orange bottle paint at the hobby store. I just wondered if the red was what others used or if the hobby shop just didn't carry any H.O. and I needed to buy some spray. I did see the International orange and almost bought it. I guess that's what I'll go with. Mr Superbee- Thanks for the VERY DETAILED info. I'll be keeping that list for future reference. Now, does anybody have any photos of a 383 engine and tranny OUT of a vehicle? Preferably up close, detail shots. Later- Edited May 8, 2011 by Modlbldr
grandsport64 Posted May 9, 2011 Posted May 9, 2011 I use Model master ford color Go Mango it's really close to the orange used.
MrObsessive Posted May 9, 2011 Posted May 9, 2011 When I was building up the engine for my '06 Magnum, I used Krylon Safety Orange (OSHA).................... It looks to be a VERY close if not exact match for what you want.
Keef Posted May 9, 2011 Posted May 9, 2011 I use Model master ford color Go Mango it's really close to the orange used. Go Mango is a Mopar color, not a Ford color
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