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Here are some good pictures. http://www.43plymouth.com/ http://www.hotrod.com/feature_stories/1404_the_kings_first_elephant/photo_01.html

A cool can can be any color, it's just a container filled with ice with a coiled fuel line inside, I have seen red, blue, yellow, black and aluminum colored ones, Moroso's cool can was aluminum, red or blue. Some has the sides insulated with cork and some doesn't.

I have the Grumpy's Toys book wich is a good and interesting read and I can recommend it to anyone with an interest in drag racing history. Jenkins used the same car both in 1979 and 1980, and after what I can see from the pictures in the book braided lines and AN fittings were used in the 1979 "Toy XV" Camaro. The "Toy XV" was replaced with the "Toy XVI" Camaro for the 1981 year, and that was replaced with the "Toy XVII" Generation 3 Camaro in 1983 wich was the last Pro Stock car Jenkins had, it was sold to Bob Panella after the season.

I personally don't care who does the subjects I wish for, as long as we get them I'm happy. So if it's Moebius, Round 2, Revell or anyone else doesn't matter to me as long as the kits and parts they do are done correct. Regarding chrome plated parts. It's a lot easier and of course cheaper to remove unwanted chrome plating than to have parts you want plated done...all builders around the World doesn't have a vacuum plating service for modelers available to them as you do in the US...companies like Chrome Tech and others...we don't have anything like that over here so we have to rely on the kit manufacturers to plate the parts for us. Yes you can use Alclad Chrome or something similar, but the finish doesn't get as shiny as the plated kit parts does and I prefer plated parts over non plated parts as I can do as I please with them, dull them down, remove the plating and use paint instead or whatever, if the parts are unplated I do not have much choice do I.

Very nice work Tyrone.

The Hilborn Mechanical Fuel Injection setup is pretty much the same today. There are pictures of the components on Hilborn's website http://www.hilborninjection.com/category.asp?Id=4 and here are a couple of schematics on how you plumb them. Oh one more thing, the throttle arm on the metering valve and the arms on the butterflies in the injectors are coupled together and move simultaneously so you get the right ammount of fuel according to the butterfly opening when to stomp on the go pedal.

I woun't tell anyone....but that was good...George had two Mustangs. One was the Malco Gasser with the 67-68 body style (as in the recent kit) and the other was Mr Gasket Gasser with the 69-70 body style. The chassis for both Mustangs are pretty much the same but if you want to do the Mr Gasket car you'll need a resin 69 body...or use the one in the MPC based 69 Mustang Mach 1 re-issued under the AMT/Ertl name in the 90's. The 69-70 had two different engine combinations, first a 427 SOHC as the earlier Mustang and Willys, later a turbocharged Boss 429.

George even ran a Blown 59 Cadillac before that (390 based stroked to 414 cui). There are at least 3 good pictures of the SOHC engine here that I found just now when I did a quick google search...save them or open them in a new window and they gets a lot larger http://www.thehenryford.org/exhibits/drivingamerica/Explore.aspx?okey=333297

In my opinion a car with large wheels must be low to the ground, otherwise it looks like an old horse carriage, so the right stance is crucial in this case.

I thought of that at first but remembered it was a SOHC, the same engine can be found in the Altered Wheelbase Falcon and Mercury Comet from the same series. Yes the 427 SOHC is based on the FE but it has a different intake manifold that doesn't fit on a regular FE as it's narrower and the heads are a lot different. The SOHC manifold is a Hilborn style injection manifold as you said but it might work if the post spacing is right for the Webers, so one might be able to modify it to fit a regular FE if you used the sides from a regular FE intake manifold so you get the part where it goes under the valve cover, and the middle from the SOHC.

Go for the 2 'n 1 Deluxe Kit and I think you will be pleased...I for sure was when I bought mine. If you can't find one of those then you should try to find the Custom version as it has most of the parts I listed except for the showroom stock engine, I'm not that into the 60 Starliner itself as I think Ford has done better looking Galaxies, but the kit is so good so I've got several of them anyway dedicated as donors for other builds.

If the Revell 1964 Ford Thunderbolt is done correctly it should have a "Hi-Riser" 427 but it's not a "Side Oiler" as that came in 1965. But the best FE engine in my opinion in a kit is the one in the AMT 60 Ford Galaxie Starliner kit wich is among the best kits AMT ever did. If you get the quite recent 2 'n 1 Deluxe Kit you get two engine blocks and transmissions, three intake manifolds (one single 4V (332-428), one 2X4V (427 Medium Riser) and one 3X2V (390-406), one set of short cast iron headers (406) and one set of long cast iron headers (427), one set of plain unplated valve covers, one set of plain chrome plated valve covers and one set of chrome plated "Thunderbird" script valve covers, three nice Holley 4160 4V carbs with vacuum secondarys and three Holley 2300 2V carbs. Except for that you'll get a nice 60-64 Ford Galaxie chassis to use with the older AMT 63½ and 64 Galaxies wich fits with some slight modifications, and the best 9 inch rear end i have seen in a kit so far, you also get a set of Shelby style traction bars, a nice set of Astro Supreme rims, lake pipes and some other nice stuff. if the engine is a"Hi-Riser" and "Side Oiler" is not that visible in a model, a "hi-riser" is just heads with taller intake ports and matching intake manifold where the ports are straighter and carburators is mounted higher up than stock (as on the Thunderbolt engine), and the "side oiler" has oil gallerys casted to the the lower engine block on the drivers side slightly visible on a real engine, a 427 block should also have the middle three main caps cross bolted and have threaded freeze plugs as did all of Ford's hi-performance engines...but as I said, that's not that visible on a model without looking very close. These engine was not that common, the 427 side oiler came 1965 so before that it was the regular "top oiler" without the outside oil gallery, the hi-riser was also short lived, it came 1964 but was outlawed by NASCAR 1965 and was replaced with the medium riser head and intake package and faded out. So you can use the 60 Starliner FE engine and call it what you want.

Well if the engine was a Cummins NHC, NTA or NTC it should be beige close to sand color, and if the engine was a Detroit 8V-92T it was probably silver, these colors dirty and a dirty white looks fairly the same from some distance. You're welcome.

Standard front seats and where the back seat had been it was carpeted. The Modelhaus has plated Keystone wheels from the Jo-Han kit in resin, and Competition Resins has the front tires from the Jo-Han kit in soft black resin, they are more correct than the kit tires.

I have edited the list as I have found out more regarding the Cat Yellow, I don't want to give out false information and the list to be as correct as it can be. So if anyone finds more inaccuracys both in the color list and engine list let me know and I'll fix it.

Yes, the later MPC Funny Car kits aren't that bad.

Yes research is a big part of the fun and necessary if you want to do it right.

Nice build. I picked up one of these at ebay recently and I got a set of aftermarket decals for mine as I don't trust old decals. You are right, the engine needs to be changed as Milner had a small block in the dragster in the movie...narrower rear tires would also be more correct to the movie car, AMT Parts Pack 11.75 X 16 M&H tires are more suitable for the time the car was supposed to be from.

Do a google search and you'll find out everything you want to know both in pictures and text. May we go back on topic.

Very nice Scott.

I't not easy to do a correct list of the S & M cars as you can find some conflicting information in books and on internet, I just read in the book SUPER STOCK Drag Racing The Family Sedan that the SS/E Superbird was equipped with a 440 Magnum and I've read somewhere else that the C/MP Superbird also would have had a 440...first of all the "Magnum" name was used by Dodge, not Plymouth, and after what I have found out reading the magazine articles from that time both the S & M Superbird's had Hemi's, the SS/E car with an Edelbrock Rat Roaster dual 4-bbl intake manifold and the C/MP car with a Weiand individual runner dual 4-bbl intake manifold much like the 70 and 71 Barracuda's had. I believe the only S & M cars with 440's was the Super Stock 68 and 69 GTX's and the "Clinic cars", and one Stock 68 Barracuda had a 340, most the other ones were Hemi cars as far as I know.

Many car manufacturers did change from side valves to over head valves, Ford, Mercury, Lincoln, Cadillac, Oldsmobile, Pontiac, Chrysler, Dodge, Plymouth and a lot of others did change from flathead (also often called L-Head) to OHV in the late 40's to mid 50's...but not all as you mention, Buick is one as David Dunbar Buick was a pioneer and developed the OHV design, and I think Chevrolet only have had OHV engines...even the Chevrolet Series-D V8 from 1917-18 was of OHV design. Many car manufacturers chose to go for the flathead design probably because it was cheaper and simpler to manufacture than the OHV design and several of them held on to this old design fairly long...among them Ford who changed as late as 1954. Most of the modern engines are SOHC or DOHC design...but nothing is new under the sun, back before WW2 the aircraft industry used OHC design, 4-valve per cylinder and fuel injection technology, the car industry was way behind and slowly adapted to this technology fairly late except for racing purposes but have now refined it to what we have today. Edit: I wrote this at the same time as you Bill, the content in my posting is essentially the same. One other thing...I don't mind explaining to people who doesn't know about these things... but all information regarding the different engine designs can be found on internet as it's the Worlds largest library, just do a Google search on what you are wondering about and I'm sure you will find answers to most of your questions.

No the Boss 429 and most of the conventional engines are OHV engines they have the cam in the center of the engine block and activate the valves via lifters, pushrods and rockers, a SOHC has the cam in the heads and can have rockers, but not allways, to activate the valves, a DOHC aslo has the cams in the heads and the valves are activated directly by the camshafts. OHV stands for Over Head Valves and the engines before them had side valves as the Flatheads has where the valves are almost directly activated by the cam lobes, and OHC is Over Head Cam where the camshaft/camshafts is on top in the heads...conventional engines has the camshaft in the engine block as I said and so do the side valve engines. So SOHC is short for Single Over Head Camshaft, DOHC is Dual Over Head Camshaft and OHV is Over Head Valves

They are from the same Corvette ZR-1 kit as the engine.

That's what I've heard also and that why I wrote New Cat Yellow.