? Anyone have Scarab Mk4 Interior Pictures ?

[Crazy Ed]

I'd like to see some period pictures of the interior of the Midengined Scarab from the Early/Mid 60's if anyone has some. I've wandered the Web and came up dry................

[Ace-Garageguy]

All I could find so far...

[Crazy Ed]

Thanks for the effort Bill. I've seen that site, but thanks again for the effort.

[Ace-Garageguy]

Sorry that one didn't do you any good. I'm really surprised that, what with all the tons of reference photos of the front-engined Scarabs and even the F1 car, there's almost nothing in detail shots of the mid-engined Mk IV...which you already know.

I tried about every search term I could think of, and the one I posted seemed to be about all there is showing any interior detail whatsoever.

Good luck. I wonder if the car is featured in any old race-car books.

EDIT: I just found this. Maybe it will help you.

"There is a very good story on the Rear Engined Scarab in the Nov/Dec 2004 issue of Vintage Motorsport it is 10 pages and has quite a few pictures also. It is called The Last Scarab. "

EDIT 2: There's a copy on ebay right now. http://www.ebay.com/itm/2004-Vintage-Motorsport-Magazine-Number-6-Last-Scarab-/111527086676?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item19f7884a54

Edited April 12, 2015 by Ace-Garageguy

[MonoPed]

I ran into the same issue when I built mine. Hard to really nail down what is correct for the car, since it seemed to change from race to race, eventually to the specification it is in that article.

[Snake45]

Are y'all talking about building the old Monogram kit? What colors did you paint yours?

[Ace-Garageguy]

Are y'all talking about building the old Monogram kit? What colors did you paint yours?

I never got around to building mine...because I couldn't find any structural, interior or engine detail references.

[Snake45]

I'm giving VERY serious thought to just polishing up the kit's "metallic" blue plastic, just 'cause I enjoy doing that.

[Crazy Ed]

I still haven't given up. I now know the instruments were all right of the Steering Wheel on the #77 version. There's also 2 Books that Preston Lerner wrote on the Scarabs (might be the same book with 2 different titles)

Ace - there's several shots of the Engine out there. Your choices are Buick Naihead or Small Block Chevy, both with side draft Webers. The only other veriation is screen on the intake vents which seems to be a later version option.

Snake - To use an Old phrase, If It Feels Good Do It!

[Art Anderson]

IIRC, if there had not been any slot racing craze back 50-some years ago, we'd probably never have gotten the rear engined Scarab at all. Monogram first did this model as a body shell for a slot car kit, and once that hobby (in 1/24 scale) died, tooled up the few parts needed to make a curbside shelf model of it.

A little-known thing about Monogram back in the day is, that several people who worked there were into sports car racing--Elkhart Lake is a rather short trip northwest from Morton Grove IL, where Monogram was originally based. some of their front office people actually worked on weekends as corner marshalls at Road America.

One problem with any Scarab after the Mk 1 front engine car of the late 50's is that Lance Reventlow (heir to the Revlon Cosmetics fortune) died in an airplane crash just as he was developing the Mk 4 AND a Formula I Scarab (my books on Offenhauser racing engines have considerable information on that failed project!).

One of the most common problems with trying to truly model most any race car that was built primarily by an owner-driver is that their evolution was quite rapid--more often than not, many of those cars changed considerably from race to race, at least with bodywork and such as cockpit features--the basic chassis probably not so much.

Chances are there are historic pictures out there, in a book someplace, however--more than likely out of print, and certainly in private collections of old photographs shot by racing fans--stored in dusty attics in old photo albums--which of course don't help at all if nobody knows about them, where they might be.

When I was building Indy car models, back in the late-60's to early 80's, I had the very same problem--how to find reference information beyond what few pics were generally available at the time--again, most of the history of Indianapolis at that time revolved around owner built or owner-modified speedway cars, cars which ran for several seasons, and changed at least a little bit from race to race.

Researching such cars can be frustrating, disappointing, even anger-generating--but something that if one pursues it with great patience and perseverance, often can be pretty satisfying, and certainly fun when that little gem of info is finally found.

Art

[Crazy Ed]

I was gonna send this via private mail but couldn't

Mornin' Art

The Scarab was fully built under Reventlow's ownership. He sold it because of Tax issues not Death. He died in '72. Accuracy in the Kit is at best limited as it shares it's "Chassis" with a Ferrari kit, but seeing as it's Curbside that's no biggie.

[MonoPed]

I used the Ricambi detail set on mine to look like it did at Daytona as a Mecom car with Foyt behind the wheel. For paint, I had some leftover Ford Viking Blue, so I used it along with Tamiya pure white and called it a day.

[Crazy Ed]

I used the Ricambi detail set on mine to look like it did at Daytona as a Mecom car with Foyt behind the wheel. For paint, I had some leftover Ford Viking Blue, so I used it along with Tamiya pure white and called it a day.

Oh I remember that Build well Brian. I traded ya for the rest of the Decal Sheet ~5 years ago .

[MonoPed]

I remember now