fseva Posted June 3, 2015 Posted June 3, 2015 Need to know some history of this kit... when was it originally kitted up... how did this version live up to previous releases (aka looks like it was made off a worn-out master)? (This kit is available at Model Roundup, and seems to be a nice alternative to all the 32s out there).
Bob Ellis Posted June 4, 2015 Posted June 4, 2015 I think this tool is relatively new. There was a '34 Ford 3 window issued by AMT in 1975, but it was so bad, that it disappeared.
Ace-Garageguy Posted June 4, 2015 Posted June 4, 2015 Overall it's a good kit. Everything in it is fairly well represented, though there are a few relatively minor proportion and shape issues with the front sheetmetal parts. Interestingly, the hood sides and top from the AMT '33 Ford sedan (which uses the same chassis as the '34 5W kit) don't fit up to the cowl of the '34 5-window...though they DO in reality. Somebody measured wrong somewhere. The AMT '34 Ford 5W proportions are pretty good overall, and it looks like a '34 Ford, but ALL of the '33-'34 Fords available have SOME flaw in the length and shapes of the noses / hoods (the old 1/24 Monogram kit is by far the best). I've measured REAL cars and compared...over on another board that is all about traditional cars. As Bob Ellis states, the AMT 3-window kit shares absolutely NOTHING with the later 5W and sedan kits. And the AMT '34 3W is a horrible kit. Almost nothing in it is any good at all.
tim boyd Posted June 4, 2015 Posted June 4, 2015 (edited) The AMT/Ertl '34 Five Window was first issued c. 1995 or so, with an all-new body/interior, paired with the chassis and running gear from the AMT/Ertl '34 Ford Tudor kit, dating from 1987 or so. The Tudor body on that one was thoroughly panned by most builders, and it has never been reissued. John Mueller did the body on the Five Window Coupe....which was great as he had (and to my knowledge, still has) his own '34 Ford Five Window in 1/1 scale sitting just out the door in his Iowa garage. The pure stock Five Window version is very good, the street rod version has an excellent body/interior, but the chassis has a clumsy, out of scale independent front suspension and a generic SBC engine (and you guys know what I think about SBC's in Ford Street Rod models, right?). Still, the street rod version can be kitbashed into a great looking model. BTW the other model car magazine has a feature on this very kit, shown in the upper right corner of the cover of the current issue. The AMT '34 Three Window kit, as noted by Bob above (as well as Bill's post which just appeared), was an entirely different kit, very poorly done and only issued once in 1975. Don't waste your money on that one. Best Regards...TIM Edited June 4, 2015 by tim boyd
Ace-Garageguy Posted June 4, 2015 Posted June 4, 2015 Yup, the old AMT '34 3-window IS horrible...BUT...the body shell can be the basis of a decent chopped fenderless car. It's a lot to pay for a kit when the rest of the box is filled with useless scrap plastic, but l do kinda have a soft spot for the bodies...
tim boyd Posted June 4, 2015 Posted June 4, 2015 I also LOVE the AMT '34 Ford 5-window kit... Bill...that's very sweet; really, really promising! Hope to see you finish it some day....TIM
fseva Posted June 4, 2015 Author Posted June 4, 2015 The AMT/Ertl '34 Five Window was first issued c. 1995 or so, with an all-new body/interior, paired with the chassis and running gear from the AMT/Ertl '34 Ford Tudor kit, dating from 1987 or so. The Tudor body on that one was thoroughly panned by most builders, and it has never been reissued. The pure stock Five Window version is very good, the street rod version has an excellent body/interior, but the chassis has a clumsy, out of scale independent front suspension and a generic SBC engine (and you guys know what I think about SBC's in Ford Street Rod models, right?). Still, the street rod version can be kitbashed into a great looking model. BTW the other model car magazine has a feature on this very kit, shown in the upper right corner of the cover of the current issue. Believe it or not, I have that issue and I must have paid more attention to the channeling because I didn't even remember it was a '34 Ford! Thanks for the info!
fseva Posted June 4, 2015 Author Posted June 4, 2015 Overall it's a good kit. Everything in it is fairly well represented, though there are a few relatively minor proportion and shape issues with the front sheetmetal parts. The AMT '34 Ford 5W proportions are pretty good overall, and it looks like a '34 Ford, but ALL of the '33-'34 Fords available have SOME flaw in the length and shapes of the noses / hoods (the old 1/24 Monogram kit is by far the best). I've measured REAL cars and compared...over on another board that is all about traditional cars. -window kit shares absolutely NOTHING with the later 5W and sedan kits. And the AMT '34 3W is a horrible kit. Almost nothing in it is any good at all. Thanks for the info, Bill! I can see I'm going to have to start looking for this kit on eBay!
fseva Posted June 4, 2015 Author Posted June 4, 2015 This is just a question asked out of curiosity - it has nothing to do with the main topic - but I've been comparing the box cover art for the Street Rod and the Standard Coupe, and... doesn't the street rod's top look just a bit chopped?
Casey Posted May 10, 2020 Posted May 10, 2020 On 6/3/2015 at 7:09 PM, Bob Ellis said: There was a '34 Ford 3 window issued by AMT in 1975, but it was so bad, that it disappeared. On 6/3/2015 at 8:52 PM, Ace-Garageguy said: As Bob Ellis states, the AMT 3-window kit shares absolutely NOTHING with the later 5W and sedan kits. And the AMT '34 3W is a horrible kit. Almost nothing in it is any good at all. On 6/3/2015 at 9:01 PM, tim boyd said: The AMT '34 Three Window kit, as noted by Bob above (as well as Bill's post which just appeared), was an entirely different kit, very poorly done and only issued once in 1975. Don't waste your money on that one. Well, the box art might be this kit's lone redeeming factor....four-slot mag wheels, if you're into those:
stavanzer Posted May 10, 2020 Posted May 10, 2020 Notice that the Top Chrome Tree, with the wheels on it, looks identical to the Chrome Tree in the AMT '23 Model T Roadster. I had heard rumors, but never had a chance to see the parts until now. BTW Casey, Great Thread Resurrection!
Dave Darby Posted May 12, 2020 Posted May 12, 2020 On 5/10/2020 at 3:24 PM, alexis said: Notice that the Top Chrome Tree, with the wheels on it, looks identical to the Chrome Tree in the AMT '23 Model T Roadster. I had heard rumors, but never had a chance to see the parts until now. BTW Casey, Great Thread Resurrection! I believe it shared many components with the 23 T kit, hence its awful proportions. Then Revell copied AMTs mistake with Buttera 27 T based 34 Ford kit.
Dave Darby Posted May 12, 2020 Posted May 12, 2020 On 6/4/2015 at 2:44 AM, Greg Myers said: The box art build for this is built mostly from the old Aurora 34 Ford. At least the body is.
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