Vallejo Surface Primer; model #70.600

[aurfalien]

Hi,

I've a 17ml bottle of there surface primer.

Its very thin, runny and milky, shows brush strokes too.

After applying about 6-7 coats, it seems to look ok.

Has any one messed with this stuff?

Edited August 10, 2015 by aurfalien

[DaveM]

Tried it on metal miniatures for gaming.  It works well for that, but I can imagine it wouldn't be as good as a spray primer on a model. It bonds well to cast metal and works well under Vallejo paints and can stand up to some oils.  I am interested to hear what others have experienced with it.

[aurfalien]

Well, its Model Color line and is meant to brush on.

I'm getting pretty dismaid with my Vallejo experiance so far.

[Twokidsnosleep]

You are not the only one.

I have avoided that primer and stick with Tamiya rattle cans and mostly airbrush Tamiya as well

Have some model color for brushing, but have not used it much

If I may refer you, lots guys avoid Vallejo for reasons they discuss. IMHO it ain't worth the $ for all its problems

http://www.intscalemodeller.com/viewtopic.php?f=55&t=13961

http://www.intscalemodeller.com/viewtopic.php?f=55&t=13989

Edited August 10, 2015 by Twokidsnosleep

[aurfalien]

Thanks for the post.

Could you recomend a good brush on primer?

I find brushing very zen and interactive.

Spray has its place as well but some times, a lot of times I'd just rather brush.

PS The Tamiya surface primer is excellent but it has putty in it and I use it as a filler+primer and is not a regular primer.

Edited August 10, 2015 by aurfalien

[Twokidsnosleep]

I am a Tamiya fine primer user in rattle can...haven't really brush primed before, other than say white to make a color pop

[Mr Stock]

Vallejo surface primer is an excellent product which Ive been using for a few years now.....however, It depends what you are using it for, I use it generally as a primer for painting interiors chassis componenets etc, its absolutely no good as a base for painting bodies.

And it needs to be airbrushed you get gtreat results that way, but it must be thinned with Vallejo's own airbrush thinners.

 

[fseva]

Hi,

I've a 17ml bottle of there surface primer.

Its very thin, runny and milky, shows brush strokes too.

After applying about 6-7 coats, it seems to look ok.

Has any one messed with this stuff?

That "milkiness" sounds like what happens with other acrylics - I have a flat black manufactured by Vallejo for Micro-Mark, and after it sits in its bottle for a while (I transferred some to a small glass bottle for use), you can see the white milky stuff has separated from the color. A good shaking will mix the two and it will go on well until it starts separating again, which doesn't take long, especially if you're doing a relatively large area. My suggestion would be to shake it real good and dip your brush right into the container that was shaken; then, shake again when you see the components start separating.

I have used their primer in the 4oz bottles, and always airbrushed it. Never had a model that didn't peel somewhere after using the primer. So, I gave it up, with any interest in doing bodies with acrylics. Sorry to be so negative, but I really wanted to duplicate the kinds of finishes I would see in magazines and online, and I simply decided that I could not get there with acrylics...