Greg Pugh Posted December 10, 2015 Author Share Posted December 10, 2015 Is it me or maybe the picture angle but the differential looks upside down. Holy cow Brad! You saved my bacon there! I double and triple checked that throughout the mocking up stages and must've flipped it around right before I glued it together! I was so sure that I had it right that I admittedly scoffed at your post and thought "Brad's lost his mind"! Then I thought, maybe I better take another look. And that folks, is why I love a build thread! Thank you Brad! You saved the day. It's already been fixed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gasser59 Posted December 10, 2015 Share Posted December 10, 2015 Glad to help out. You would have discovered it sooner rather than later. Its funny, I do the same thing...tell myself I gotta do this, gotta do this and then when it comes time to do it, I forget. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Pugh Posted December 11, 2015 Author Share Posted December 11, 2015 My original intention was to use the complete engine and transmission from the Super Bee but...that changed. I decided that I will be using the engine from the Satellite and mate it to the bell housing/transmission from the Super Bee. The first picture is of the two engines side by side for comparison when I was mocking it up. The second pic was after I already changed my mind but forgot to snap a pic, you can see the Torqueflite has been removed already. Also in that second pic, you can see what prompted this decision. If you'll notice where I marked with Sharpie, the motor's mounting point is too far back and too low on the Super Bee, and it's too high and just a bit too far forward on the Satellite. Once the motor is installed and the exhaust manifolds are installed, you won't see this anyways so instead of correcting the motor mounts, I chose the lesser of the two evils. As some of you know, the RB engine series (383, 413, 426 wedge, and 440) all share the same block. The Satellite kit came with a 426 Wedge and the Super Bee kit came with a 440. AMT and Moebius both did their homework here too as both blocks are identical in size. So much so in fact, that I'll be able to use the short block from the Satellite and still put the top end and all of the 6-pack stuff right on top of it and no one will ever know! Mwahahahahahahahahaha! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Pugh Posted December 11, 2015 Author Share Posted December 11, 2015 All in all, a pretty productive 24 hours (for me anyways...Lol). Now to clean everything up, prime, and paint. Thanks for watching! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridge Rider Posted December 12, 2015 Share Posted December 12, 2015 Nice story and the 1:1 is sweet. A nice start, thanks for sharing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TFchronos Posted December 12, 2015 Share Posted December 12, 2015 Very nice story, as a huge Mopar fan and fan of the mid year Plymouths ('67 being my personal favorite) I can say I'll definitely be watching your build closely. Nice work mating the engine and transmission. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
68shortfleet Posted December 12, 2015 Share Posted December 12, 2015 (edited) Looking good Greg. How many kits do you have started now? Edited December 12, 2015 by 68shortfleet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Pugh Posted December 12, 2015 Author Share Posted December 12, 2015 I had three going, one being super close to completion, but they were all stalled out (waiting for parts, paint drying, etc). I had nothing to do and I just felt like I couldn't wait any longer on starting this one. Lol. So I currently have four, including this one. I generally don't like having more than three going at one time but like I said, one of the four is super close to being done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dodgefever Posted December 12, 2015 Share Posted December 12, 2015 My original intention was to use the complete engine and transmission from the Super Bee but...that changed. I decided that I will be using the engine from the Satellite and mate it to the bell housing/transmission from the Super Bee. The first picture is of the two engines side by side for comparison when I was mocking it up. The second pic was after I already changed my mind but forgot to snap a pic, you can see the Torqueflite has been removed already. Also in that second pic, you can see what prompted this decision. If you'll notice where I marked with Sharpie, the motor's mounting point is too far back and too low on the Super Bee, and it's too high and just a bit too far forward on the Satellite.Neither is exactly right; the driver's side mount should be around the same height as on the Moebius block, but rearward of the oil pump. The AMT block looks more correct in terms of the chamfers on the corners, but easy to fix on the Moebius. Good job on the K member. Looking forward to seeing this progress. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Pugh Posted December 15, 2015 Author Share Posted December 15, 2015 Something else for those building this kit, especially those wanting to build an accurate stock car, I discovered that the oil pan is wrong. The oil pan in the kit is correct for a C body car with a big block. In the picture below, the oil pan on the top is the Moebius Satellite piece, while the lower one is from AMT's Super Bee. Reference: http://www.440source.com/oilpans.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roadrunner Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 Interesting story. I too have wanted to build some tribute models of cars that I've owned, but virtually none of them are available as stock versions, or anywhere near stock. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Pugh Posted January 27, 2016 Author Share Posted January 27, 2016 While getting a bunch of pieces ready for same-color paint, I decided to get the rest of the 4-speed conversion done. I started with the pedals. First, I trimmed up the brake pedal: Then, I did the same thing to the brake pedal from a donor '65 Satellite kit I have I shortened the brake pedal arm and made a notch for it to go into Lastly, I attached the brake (now clutch) pedal. I wasn't too worried about how pretty the attachment point was as long as it was solid. The entire horizontal piece that the pedals swing from goes completely behind the dash. Also, I removed the bracket that the accelerator pedal is attached to as it will stand alone. It will look more realistic like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Pugh Posted January 27, 2016 Author Share Posted January 27, 2016 Sorry for the picture size differences in my posts. I finally realized how to add story/picture/story. I figured it would look much better that way. Now moving onto the console. The console itself is the same between the automatic cars and the 4-speed cars. The difference is in the console shifter plate. Here's what we're starting with And here's what we're trying to accomplish Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Pugh Posted January 27, 2016 Author Share Posted January 27, 2016 So we need to start by removing the raised section towards the rear where the automatic shifter and indicator go I then cut the forward section from another piece in the same donor Satellite kit as I previously mentioned and added it Then, I made a hole for the 4-speed shifter There is still a little bit of work to do here. I will be stripping the chrome off, further addressing the surgery scars, and then hitting it with Alclad. All in all, not too much work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fordy_Styles Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 Awesome work so far, I will definitely be following along with this build. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dino246gt Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 Really loving all the extra details! Keep 'em coming! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Pugh Posted February 19, 2016 Author Share Posted February 19, 2016 Between being busy with work and having my butt kicked with the flu this last week, I haven't had any bench time here lately. I'm starting to feel better now though and was able to get the Dana 60 bolted in and torqued down today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Custom Mike Posted February 19, 2016 Share Posted February 19, 2016 Chassis looks great Greg, and the modification to the shifter plate on the console is very nicely done! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Pugh Posted February 19, 2016 Author Share Posted February 19, 2016 Thank you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Pugh Posted February 21, 2016 Author Share Posted February 21, 2016 The 440 6-pack is done and ready to install. I forgot to mention earlier that my car had power steering so I stole the power steering reservoir and the belts and pulleys from the '70 Superbee kit also. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Speedfreak Posted February 21, 2016 Share Posted February 21, 2016 Great thread Greg, I'm really enjoying this! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Pugh Posted February 21, 2016 Author Share Posted February 21, 2016 Thank you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Pugh Posted April 26, 2016 Author Share Posted April 26, 2016 Yesterday I was able to get the engine installed for the last time. I installed both inner fenders, core support, driveline, and exhaust. I'm hoping to have it on wheels by this weekend sometime. It's been awfully busy at work here lately but progress is progress! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gasser59 Posted April 26, 2016 Share Posted April 26, 2016 That looks great Greg. Glad to see you've gotten some bench time on this. Loving the color. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Pugh Posted April 26, 2016 Author Share Posted April 26, 2016 Thank you Brad! I just had another "Doh!" moment! I just realized that I forgot to install my battery cables and the hose for the windshield washer reservoir! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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