Lacquer over Pledge Floor Care Finish?

[aurfalien]

Hello Esteemed Builders!

First is first, Happy 4th of July!  A historic day in our wonderful country's rich history.

At any rate, I've read a few posts about spraying final paint over Pledge Floor Care to achieve a brilliant finish.  One should wait a week for the Pledge to fully cure before doing so apparently.

While I have no immediate application or need for this, I was curious as to your thoughts.

 

Edited July 4, 2016 by aurfalien

[Harry P.]

Pledge Floor Care (sold previously as "Future") is nothing more than clear acrylic.

Some people, like Bill Geary, for one, use it as a barrier between the kit's bare plastic and the color coats, to prevent any bleed-thru. It certainly can't hurt. And since Pledge Floor Care is simply clear acrylic, you don't need to wait a week for it to dry. It'll dry a lot quicker than that.

I actually use it as my final clear coat on top of the paint. I brush it on. Works great (for me, at least!). All of these models feature a Future clear coat...

[aurfalien]

Pledge Floor Care (sold previously as "Future") is nothing more than clear acrylic.

Some people, like Bill Geary, for one, use it as a barrier between the kit's bare plastic and the color coats, to prevent any bleed-thru. It certainly can't hurt. And since Pledge Floor Care is simply clear acrylic, you don't need to wait a week for it to dry. It'll dry a lot quicker than that.

Wow, the bleed thru prevention sounds brilliant, thanks man!

[Harry P.]

More models using Future as the clear coat...

[MrObsessive]

Yes, I stand by Future as my go to item when I need to prevent something from crazing or bleed through. BIN Zinsser Sealer is another good one, and it's what I actually prefer to use as it's easier to apply with an airbrush than the Future-----especially for bodywork.

Another thing I found out about Future.......for some reason super glue doesn't play nice with Alclad paint----at least the times I've used it. I use super glue sometimes to fill in sink marks and whatnot on exhausts and such, and when Alclad is airbrushed over it, it tends to show through. Brushing a coat or two of Future stops that in its tracks so I recommend it for that also.

Edited July 4, 2016 by MrObsessive

[aurfalien]

WOW, I absolutely love your subject matter!!!

Fabulous!!!

My favs are the Stutz Bearcat and the Lincoln Model L.

The Bearcat is Chitty Chitty Bang Bang-esque.

 

Edited July 4, 2016 by aurfalien

[BigTallDad]

Harry, those are some great builds! How about showing one on a nice wooden base (hint hint)?

 

[High octane]

More models using Future as the clear coat...

Really nice builds you have there Harry.

[Harry P.]

Harry, those are some great builds! How about showing one on a nice wooden base (hint hint)?

The bases are for the big guys (1/8 scale)...

[Harry P.]

Harry, those are some great builds! How about showing one on a nice wooden base (hint hint)?

Ray... not sure if this is the one you made for me, but in any case... Pocher on a base! And yes, Future clearcoat...

[Snake45]

I've airbrushed Dullcote lacquer over Future used as a decal glosscoat on model airplanes too many times to count. No problems, though other airplane modelers have reported Future cracking years later. I haven't seen it.

I consider Future to be an inferior product for a final finish for a model car, though, and would never use it that way.

[Harry P.]

I consider Future to be an inferior product for a final finish for a model car, though, and would never use it that way.

Really? Even after seeing my results?

What do you base your opinion on?

[StevenGuthmiller]

Really? Even after seeing my results?

What do you base your opinion on?

"Opinion" is the key word Harry.

Everyone is allowed to have their own.

 

Steve

[Harry P.]

Yes, of course. But to claim that Future is an "inferior" product and he would never use it that way as a final finish needs an explanation. His opinion had to be based on something. And I just don't see it... so I'm curious as to why he feels that way.

[StevenGuthmiller]

Yes, of course. But to claim that Future is an "inferior" product as a final finish needs an explanation.

Now you're asking for "facts".

Facts have little to do with opinions.

 

Steve

[Harry P.]

Funny, but I base my opinions on facts. And the fact is, Future makes a terrific final finish on a model. Therefore my opinion that it works great as a clear coat is based on that fact. The facts led me to my conclusion.

Which is why I am interested as to what led Rich to his opinion.

[StevenGuthmiller]

Funny, but I base my opinions on facts. And the fact is, Future makes a terrific final finish on a model. Therefore my opinion that it works great as a clear coat is based on that fact. The facts led me to my conclusion.

Which is why I am interested as to what led Rich to his opinion.

You're a relic Harry.

All you have to do is look at our government to see how few people there are left that base their opinions on fact.

 

Steve

[Harry P.]

I may be a relic, but I still like to operate based on common sense and facts.

And I'm waiting for Rich to explain to me why he thinks Future doesn't work as a clear coat, despite visual evidence to the contrary.

I'm not saying he doesn't have a right to his opinion. I'm just asking how he came to his opinion.

[StevenGuthmiller]

I may be a relic, but I still like to operate based on common sense and facts.

And I'm waiting for Rich to explain to me why he thinks Future doesn't work as a clear coat, despite visual evidence to the contrary.

I'm not saying he doesn't have a right to his opinion. I'm just asking how he came to his opinion.

Fair enough.

I'm just playin' with ya.

 

Steve

[aurfalien]

Screw the topic, Harry, man those cars of yours are killer.

So pleasing on the eye.  It's almost like a nice Gin&Tonic for the eye balls.

[Harry P.]

Screw the topic, Harry, man those cars of yours are killer.

So pleasing on the eye.  It's almost like a nice Gin&Tonic for the eye balls.

Thanks, Brian! That means a lot.

[Harry P.]

A few  more, all clear coated with "inferior" Future...

[Miatatom]

Harry, do you have a tutorial for hand brushing Future?

[Harry P.]

Not specifically, no.

I use a 3/4" wide, flat, soft sable brush, and brush one area at a time..,. left front fender, right front fender, left rear fender, right rear fender, left side of body, right side of body, etc. By doing it in sections, I have control over runs and sags. Future is very thin, basically the consistency of water. I have tried airbrushing it, but it tends to run and sag no matter how carefully I airbrush it. Doing it one section at a time by brush gives me ultimate control... any runs or sags, I can use the corner of a paper towel to sop up the excess. It's a slow process, and probably not for everyone... but it works for me, as the photos I have posted prove. Brushing it on vs. airbrushing it gives me control over each section. It's probably not a method most guys would go for, but like I said, it works for me, and the photos are the proof.

[Miatatom]

Thanks! I'll give it a try.