afx Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 (edited) I'm building this for the TRAK forum but I thought I would post it here as well. A big change from what I typically build but I'm really enjoying it. I bought just the engine from an ebay parts seller so it will be just a display engine. Knowing very little about a Model T engine I did some research and found this very useful diagram. The kit block had no bolt detail on the oil pan flange so I added some by cutting thin slices of hex rod. I drilled some recesses into the transmission case cover (using a small ball bit turned in my fingers) to simulate the screws that hold it in place. The lower cooling hose was cast into the side of the engine. I removed it with a Dremel and various files then reshaped the front cylinder. Edited February 12, 2017 by afx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afx Posted February 13, 2017 Author Share Posted February 13, 2017 (edited) The engine comes the Fruit Wagon kit I think and has a total of (6) parts. If this is going to be a display engine it needs more detail. Here I have added the oil fill tube and cap, some simple fan belt pulleys and the makings of a starter crank. The kit's upper cooling hose was just sticking out of the cylinder head. I loped that off and made a new connection using a photo-etched header flange bonded to some flat sheet stock to provide additional thickness. Edited February 13, 2017 by afx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belugawrx Posted February 13, 2017 Share Posted February 13, 2017 Nice work on that small 1:25th ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Macleod Posted February 13, 2017 Share Posted February 13, 2017 Great start! If you need any reference photos from a 1:1 engine pm me with your e-mail and I'll send s Ok me photos to you. I'm maxed out on posting photos otherwise I'd post them here for you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slusher Posted February 13, 2017 Share Posted February 13, 2017 Real nice work so far... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afx Posted February 13, 2017 Author Share Posted February 13, 2017 Thank you gentlemen. Here I have added the front support for the starter, a crank handle and pin mounted the fan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XJ6 Posted February 13, 2017 Share Posted February 13, 2017 I would like to find those engine stands, where do you get that one?, looking forward to the progress report Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afx Posted February 13, 2017 Author Share Posted February 13, 2017 (edited) I would like to find those engine stands, where do you get that one?, looking forward to the progress report It is included in Fujimi's Porsche 356 kit. I bought a glue bomb kit and restored the stand. AMT's '66 Nova has a similar stand. Wouldn't be too difficult to scratch build. Edited February 13, 2017 by afx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XJ6 Posted February 14, 2017 Share Posted February 14, 2017 Thanks for the info Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobthehobbyguy Posted February 14, 2017 Share Posted February 14, 2017 Nice work. Very cool project. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afx Posted February 14, 2017 Author Share Posted February 14, 2017 (edited) The intake/carb/hot air pipe/exhaust manifold are cast as a single piece in the kit. I wanted to separate them for further detailing. This required me cutting the tail off the exhaust manifold, I used some kit sprue to restore it. While I was at it I added some additional material so that I could give the top line of the manifold a more correct shape. I have a bit more work to do but you can see where it is going. I was curious what the purpose of the “hot air pipe” was so I asked one of our resident mechanical gurus, Ace-Garageguy . He explained the purpose was to draw heated air from around the exhaust manifold to eliminate/reduce “carburetor icing”, even provided a Wikipedia link that explained the condition. I didn’t get a good picture but hopefully you can see how I scalloped out the back side the hood of the hot air pipe to replicate the 1:1 part. Edited February 14, 2017 by afx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vintagercr Posted February 14, 2017 Share Posted February 14, 2017 Great looking detail Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
landman Posted February 14, 2017 Share Posted February 14, 2017 Loving this. Probably the most accurate 1:25 scale Model T extant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
misterNNL Posted February 14, 2017 Share Posted February 14, 2017 Thanks for posting your photos as I am sure a lot of members have zero knowledge concerning these 20 HP engines that powered American automotive history for decades.Your attention to detail is exceptional and very well done.Thanks for sharing with us !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afx Posted February 14, 2017 Author Share Posted February 14, 2017 Thank you gentlemen for the kind words. I failed to take pictures of the stock parts before I started. I found these pictures of a built-up on ebay to illustrate what they look like. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afx Posted February 15, 2017 Author Share Posted February 15, 2017 I separated the manifold and carb and made a flange from a small punch of sheet stock. Drilled through all the parts and reinstalled them on a mounting pin. A black was during final construction will tone down the colors and bring out some of the carb detail. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Macleod Posted February 15, 2017 Share Posted February 15, 2017 One small detail that is missing is the Magneto Post. It is a small protruding plug above the transmission inspection cover. I'll fun out to the garage and get you a photo. This is an engine that o wish was located under the hood of my 26 Runabout project! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afx Posted February 15, 2017 Author Share Posted February 15, 2017 One small detail that is missing is the Magneto Post. It is a small protruding plug above the transmission inspection cover. I'll fun out to the garage and get you a photo. This is an engine that o wish was located under the hood of my 26 Runabout project! Eric, having a 1:1 in the garage you are obviously more knowledgeable about these engines than I. Would a generator and an electric starter be appropriate? I believe the engine is from the '25 Ford Fruit Wagon kit. I have seen you tube videos of stand mounted T engines and many of them show a coil box, generator and an electric starter along with the hand crank. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr moto Posted February 16, 2017 Share Posted February 16, 2017 This is fascinating. Your detail work is excellent! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Macleod Posted February 16, 2017 Share Posted February 16, 2017 Actually a better question is if a starter and generator would be inappropriate. It is fundamental to understand that the Model T Ford was in near constant evolution. That being understood, one could order a Model T with or without an electric starter and generator beginning in 1919, though today you will see many cars built prior to that year (including both of my 1915's) that have been retrofitted with electric starters and generators. This is not a task for the feint of heart as the engine and transmission have to come out and completely apart. In any case, your engine as it is now is a very authentic representation of an unequipped Ford engine. Adding a starter and generator along with the coil box would look good too but if this was my project I'd skip those items. Hope that long winded response helps.Eric Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afx Posted February 16, 2017 Author Share Posted February 16, 2017 Thanks Manuel. And Eric thank you for the information, photos and your opinion. My goal is to build a very traditional Model T engine so I think I will take your advice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Art Anderson Posted February 16, 2017 Share Posted February 16, 2017 Another part of the equation ought to be adding the two small petcocks to the flywheel housing, which were used to check the oil level, one directly below the other. Adding the transmission pedals to the left side of the engine is another very visible and yet essential detail. I really like where this model engine project is headed!Art Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afx Posted February 16, 2017 Author Share Posted February 16, 2017 Thanks Art. I have a few more things to do on the block and then I can turn my attention to the transmission. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afx Posted February 16, 2017 Author Share Posted February 16, 2017 (edited) Eric, I believe this is the magneto post you referenced. Edited February 16, 2017 by afx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afx Posted February 16, 2017 Author Share Posted February 16, 2017 (edited) This engine is still earning a living! Edited February 16, 2017 by afx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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