Revell Full Detail/Glue NASCAR Kits

[martinfan5]

Well finally, just like the press release Revell put out stating they would do the full detail/glue kits after the snap kits, well, here they are, starting with the Ford Fusions, with the updated 2016/2017 body, the first two will be for Kevin Harvick and Danica Patrick, the Chevy's will follow, and per Ed, they are currently working on getting the licensing from Toyota so they can do the Toyota as well.   Thanks to Blubaja for these photo's, ( we have already seen this at NNL Milwaukee, but these are much better)

[martinfan5]

Edited April 25, 2017 by martinfan5

[Mikey56]

love it!  I can see where some imporivements will have to be made....side window naca ducts is one....wondering tho....is the dash the old analog style or the current digital? 

[aurfalien]

Hi,

A Camry Nascar could be very cool.

[Jhedir6]

love it!  I can see where some imporivements will have to be made....side window naca ducts is one....wondering tho....is the dash the old analog style or the current digital? 

If you save one of the pics where you can see the dash, and then use your photo viewer to zoom in, it looks fairly flat where the gauges would be. I'd guess it will likely be a decal to represent the digital dash. Even if it does have bezels they could easily be sanded off for a scratch built digital display.

Hi,

A Camry Nascar could be very cool.

My understanding is that there will be more to follow. Two fords followed by two GM's then followed by Toyota's near the end of the year. 

I think it looks pretty good so far. The only thing that really looks off to me are the tires. They seem too tall and too wide. But that might just be an optical illusion from the pics.

[aurfalien]

Hi,

Wow a great line up.

Revell is kickin some booty here.

 

[stavanzer]

Do both cars have the same driver figure?

[THarrison351]

 

I think it looks pretty good so far. The only thing that really looks off to me are the tires. They seem too tall and too wide. But that might just be an optical illusion from the pics.

At first I thought the tires looked off too, but after looking at some pictures of current cup cars, the problem I see see is there are no Goodyear Eagle labels on the tires and some builder still thinks its the '80s and the wheel rim edges are red. Kind of throws the proportions off.

[Jhedir6]

At first I thought the tires looked off too, but after looking at some pictures of current cup cars, the problem I see see is there are no Goodyear Eagle labels on the tires and some builder still thinks its the '80s and the wheel rim edges are red. Kind of throws the proportions off.

You could be 100% right Tim. I havent seen them in person, its just the feeling I get from the photos. Even if they are too large, I'm sure replacing them with wheels/tires from older kits isnt going to be a problem. How many old NASCAR kits are kicking around. Should be cheap enough to pick up lots for cheap if need be. And you're also right about the decals, they might not look so big with the Goodyear decals on them.

[ZTony8]

Kudos to Revell for sticking out their corporate neck with these kits but I see them as unsaleable 5$ items( a.k.a. contest prizes and Dirty Santa tricks) in about 5 years- just like the older ones.

[martinfan5]

If you save one of the pics where you can see the dash, and then use your photo viewer to zoom in, it looks fairly flat where the gauges would be. I'd guess it will likely be a decal to represent the digital dash. Even if it does have bezels they could easily be sanded off for a scratch built digital display.

My understanding is that there will be more to follow. Two fords followed by two GM's then followed by Toyota's near the end of the year. 

I think it looks pretty good so far. The only thing that really looks off to me are the tires. They seem too tall and too wide. But that might just be an optical illusion from the pics.

Hold on there for moment, Revell is still currently trying to work out the details with Toyota, so that is not a done deal yet( from Ed on Saturday), but the Chevy's will be following soon,  hopefully Q4.

[martinfan5]

love it!  I can see where some imporivements will have to be made....side window naca ducts is one....wondering tho....is the dash the old analog style or the current digital? 

The dash looks to be the same dash that they are using in the current snap versions, its more of generic dash,   but there is no detail on the gauge area, so that is perfect for it being used as a digital dash. 

[martinfan5]

 

I think it looks pretty good so far. The only thing that really looks off to me are the tires. They seem too tall and too wide. But that might just be an optical illusion from the pics.

Its not you, and I dont think it is a optical illusion, they do seem way off to me as well,  I am not liking them, and they do look too tall and wide.

[W-409]

This looks interesting! I'm more into Vintage Stock Cars, but when the Chevrolets are out I guess I'll pick up one. And if the prices drop like Tony said, I could probably buy a Ford as well somewhere in the future, but it's for sure that I'll see no Toyotas around here. NASCAR is an American sport so I'm not too crazy about seeing those "ricers" racing in there...

[martinfan5]

At first I thought the tires looked off too, but after looking at some pictures of current cup cars, the problem I see see is there are no Goodyear Eagle labels on the tires and some builder still thinks its the '80s and the wheel rim edges are red. Kind of throws the proportions off.

But, teams still still run red/yellow stripes on the rims, not as thick as the built up, but they are still there.

[martinfan5]

This looks interesting! I'm more into Vintage Stock Cars, but when the Chevrolets are out I guess I'll pick up one. And if the prices drop like Tony said, I could probably buy a Ford as well somewhere in the future, but it's for sure that I'll see no Toyotas around here. NASCAR is an American sport so I'm not too crazy about seeing those "ricers" racing in there...

Well, good thing that the Camrys are 100% built here in the USA, in Georgetown Kentucky, making them more American than the current Chevy SS( Australia), and the Ford Fusion(built in Mexico), which is built on the Platfom that comes from Mazda,  Toyota has every right to be in NASCAR.

Edited April 25, 2017 by martinfan5

[kitbash1]

Nice looking kits. But those tires look like BLAH_BLAH_BLAH_BLAH. They look too tall and square, instead of being rounder at the side walls where it meets the contact patch. Maybe the aftermarket can come up with a correct resin replacement.

[martinfan5]

Nice looking kits. But those tires look like BLAH_BLAH_BLAH_BLAH. They look too tall and square, instead of being rounder at the side walls where it meets the contact patch. Maybe the aftermarket can come up with a correct resin replacement.

Glad I have nice stockpile of the previous Revell NSCAR tires that I can use if the kit tires do turn out to be like what we are seeing.

 

What I dont get  why is Revell changing the tires, and not using the ones from the snap kits, which are the same ones (very close) they have been using since the late 90's when they went to the smooth sidewall and used decals for the wording.   That is a head scratcher for sure.

Edited April 25, 2017 by martinfan5

[Danno]

Shouldn't the driver figure for the  #10 car have some extra "padding" on the front? 

[tim boyd]

Actually the current generation Fusion is built on the Ford Global CD platform; it shares nothing with Mazda.  (It was developed after Ford sold its share in Mazda). 

The current Fusion is sold in most of the rest of the world as the Mondeo, but they are the same car, developed and styled as one global program.  

It's the prior (first) generation Fusion that shared its platform with Mazda.  TIM

 

[martinfan5]

Actually the current generation Fusion is built on the Ford Global CD platform; it shares nothing with Mazda.  (It was developed after Ford sold its share in Mazda). 

The current Fusion is sold in most of the rest of the world as the Mondeo, but they are the same car, developed and styled as one global program.  

It's the prior (first) generation Fusion that shared its platform with Mazda.  TIM

 

You are correct, the current CD4 platform is a global platform, but according to the internet, the CD4 platform, also known as the GG Platform for Mazda was designed by Mazda in the their joint effort with Ford.   Ford and Mazda are sharing this platform, and it used on the following cars.

Mazda GG platform cars

    2002–2005 Mazda Atenza (sedan)
    2002–Present Mazda Mazda6 (sedan)
    2007+ Mazda CX-9 (crossover SUV)
    2007+ FAW Besturn

Ford CD4 Platform

    2013–present Ford Fusion (CD391)
    2015–present Ford Edge (CD539N)
    2013–present Lincoln MKZ (CD533)
    2017-present Lincoln Continental
    2016–present Lincoln MKX (U540)
    2014–present Ford Mondeo (CD391)
    2016–present Ford Galaxy (CD390E)
    2016–present Ford S-Max (CD539E)
    2016–present Ford Taurus (D568 China market)

And I quote

The Ford CD4 platform (for "C/D-class") is a Ford global midsize car automobile platform. The platform is an evolution of the CD3 platform which was designed by Mazda for either front or all-wheel drive and Ford's hybrid powertrain.

Ford Motor Company uses the CD4 platform from recent partnership with Mazda as part of the One Ford strategy, to allow them to cut months of development time, reduce costs and bring vehicles to market faster.

And I quote

 Ford continues to use the Mazda's G-series platform for the basis of a number of its CD3 platform coded vehicles, including the Ford Fusion, Mercury Milan, Lincoln Zephyr/MKZ, Lincoln MKX, and a range of SUVs and minivans. Ford also plans to offer a hybrid powertrain on the platform. The official Mazda chassis codes are GG (saloon/hatch) and GY (estate) series – following the 626/Capella in its GF/GW series.

And I quote

Note that Mazda6 models assembled at the joint-venture AutoAlliance International plant in Flat Rock, Michigan and these do not follow Mazda's system of using the platform code as characters four and five of the VIN. American-built Mazda6s use the "1YV" prefix on the VIN. See Ford CD3 platform.

[tim boyd]

The info above on the origins of the Ford CD4 platform is wrong. 

The Ford CD4 platform was all-new from the ground up from what I recall as retired Ford employee.  While new, it built primarily on the lessons of the prior European Mondeo/S-Max/Galaxy platform that was also used for the Volvo S80, not the prior shared Fusion/Mazda platform of 2005-2012.    

I see that one source you quoted has flagged this info as lacking attribution on their website.  The info posted at that website is misleading in this case.

While I am not entirely sure of the following, my understanding is that the current Mazda 6 is also a new from the ground up platform, not one derived from the prior shared Mazda/Ford platform of the prior decade.  For one thing, the vehicle architecture (dash to axle and such) is entirely different than the prior generation Mazda 6.   

Having said all this, I concede that it's not really relevant to our enjoyment of the new Revell NASCAR kit, so probably best that I leave it to sit at this point. 

Best regards...TIM   

 

 

 

 

 

Edited April 27, 2017 by tim boyd

[Chuck Kourouklis]

I know that when I don't have a Charger available for rent, I get after a Fusion next (Mustang convertible trumps all else if it's on the menu, though).

Think I could just about LIVE with a Fusion ST. 

Throw my applause in with everyone else's on these new full-detail kits, and the Toyotas will indeed be something new if they go that far.  I didn't realize how much I missed these till I saw the new trees.

[martinfan5]

I know that when I don't have a Charger available for rent, I get after a Fusion next (Mustang convertible trumps all else if it's on the menu, though).

Think I could just about LIVE with a Fusion ST. 

Throw my applause in with everyone else's on these new full-detail kits, and the Toyotas will indeed be something new if they go that far.  I didn't realize how much I missed these till I saw the new trees.

Yes, this new kit is looking really good,  it pains me, but I gotta give Revell some credit on this one for what I am seeing, and yes, I have been missing a full detail kit since around 2006 when Revell did the last ones.

[lordairgtar]

Do both cars have the same driver figure?

Yes, the figure is the same in all kits.