abedooley Posted June 8, 2008 Posted June 8, 2008 (edited) I just bought some of Krylon's Glitter spray. Resplendent Red. I was just wondering if anyone has used this before and how. I need to know when to put it on, how much, and if it looks good on or under gloss black. I'll be using with Krylon's Fusion gloss black and Fusion Pepper red, with Future floor wax for the top coat. THANKS, ABE DOOLEY Edited June 11, 2008 by abedooley
abedooley Posted June 9, 2008 Author Posted June 9, 2008 Has no one ever used this before?? Its hard to believe with all the talented people in here. I'm sure someones experimented with it..
evilone Posted June 9, 2008 Posted June 9, 2008 I just bought some of Krylon's Glitter spray. Resplendent Red. I was just wondering if anyone has used this before and how. I need to know when to put it on, how much, and if it looks good on or under gloss black. I'll be using with Krylon's Fusion gloss black and Fusion Pepper red, with Future floor wax for the top coat. THANKS, ABE DOOLEY i havent used it but what are you planning to do 2 tone,stripped,flames if you tell us that we might be able to help
abedooley Posted June 9, 2008 Author Posted June 9, 2008 I was wanting to either put it under the black gloss to give it a light red flake or over the gloss black. I'm paintin my Challenger gloss black with Red stripes up the hood then down the body line and back. Its pretty thick with flake so I'm thinking I might need to put it under the last light coat of balck. Its just a clear with red flakes. I just dont wanna screw it up seeins how I screwed up the first paint job with Krylon's textured shimmer. Was hopin someone else has tried it and learned before I use it. THANKS, ABE DOOLEY
evilone Posted June 9, 2008 Posted June 9, 2008 I was wanting to either put it under the black gloss to give it a light red flake or over the gloss black. I'm paintin my Challenger gloss black with Red stripes up the hood then down the body line and back. Its pretty thick with flake so I'm thinking I might need to put it under the last light coat of balck. Its just a clear with red flakes. I just dont wanna screw it up seeins how I screwed up the first paint job with Krylon's textured shimmer. Was hopin someone else has tried it and learned before I use it. THANKS, ABE DOOLEY heres an idea go get a cheap kit that you could care less about strip the parts you could use for something else then use the body to test your idea on
abedooley Posted June 9, 2008 Author Posted June 9, 2008 heres an idea go get a cheap kit that you could care less about strip the parts you could use for something else then use the body to test your idea on Well.... as I was writing that last reply I thought about the body that just got screwed up and thought about strippin it and tryin it on it. Thanks..
evilone Posted June 9, 2008 Posted June 9, 2008 Well.... as I was writing that last reply I thought about the body that just got screwed up and thought about strippin it and tryin it on it. Thanks.. glad i could UHHH help i guess if thats what i did
abedooley Posted June 10, 2008 Author Posted June 10, 2008 Yeah thanks evilone! YER A GOOD MAN, MAN.. Anyone else?
MrObsessive Posted June 10, 2008 Posted June 10, 2008 Abe, Kevin's got some very sound advice! If you're not familiar with a particular painting step or those of us out here have not tried that particular cocktail of painting, it's always best to TEST, TEST, TEST!! Those unwanted junk bodies are great for that! This'll save you a lot of headache, and who knows, you can fill us in on what you did with a particularly new type of paint. I myself am mostly a factory stock builder so I won't be that familiar with custom type paints or candies for that matter. The paint I use is actual automotive paint mixed at my local paint jobber or ordered off the 'net.
abedooley Posted June 10, 2008 Author Posted June 10, 2008 Thanks for the advice. I just need some more junk bodies. I only have the one I goofed and I'll have to strip it. If anyone has any good advice for stripping krylon's fusion paints quickly and easily, please let me know. ABE DOOLEY
MrObsessive Posted June 11, 2008 Posted June 11, 2008 There are a variety of different things to use...............some guys use CSC (The Purple Pond), I use Easy Off Oven Cleaner (Yellow Can). There's also Polly S paint remover which is a lot like brake fluid but a bit different. Just be sure to wear gloves when handling any of these products. Be careful what material you're stripping though.............resin for instance doesn't like the Polly S, and never put resin in brake fluid as you'll have a gooey mess afterward! Some will have some more suggestions in what they use I'm sure.
abedooley Posted June 11, 2008 Author Posted June 11, 2008 (edited) I just decided to test it on paper plates. I've discovered that it doesn't show very well THROUGH the gloss black. I'm torn between either a heavy spray of the glitter or a light spray. Heres some pics. Heavy spray with the flash on on the camera. Heavy spray without the flash. Light spray without flash. Light spray with flash. If ya got any suggestions, I'm more than happy to hear them. And thanks for the advice Bill. I would hate to have found that out the HARD way!! THANKS, ABE DOOLEY Edited June 16, 2008 by abedooley
rollinoldskoo Posted June 13, 2008 Posted June 13, 2008 try a gloss black base, light silver flake over it, and then a candy or transparent red over it all i use duplicolor paints mostly... their "metalspecks" line is like "scale flakes" and their "metalcast" line is just like candy.....
abedooley Posted June 13, 2008 Author Posted June 13, 2008 (edited) try a gloss black base, light silver flake over it, and then a candy or transparent red over it all i use duplicolor paints mostly... their "metalspecks" line is like "scale flakes" and their "metalcast" line is just like candy..... I just checked out Dupli-colors site and they have some WICKED paint combinations!! I think I'll be goin to auto zone or somewhere to buy some next week. I really like the color shifting paint kit! I might use that later. THANKS FOR THE TIP ROLLIN!!! Edited June 13, 2008 by abedooley
curt raitz Posted June 13, 2008 Posted June 13, 2008 if spare bodies aren't available...buy a black sharpy and a box of plastic picnic spoons paint the spoons and use the sharpy to record the paint used, etc easy to store and can be referenced later when ya forgot how ya got that weird shade of green, etc
evilone Posted June 13, 2008 Posted June 13, 2008 ###### i need to find that paint where did you get it
abedooley Posted June 14, 2008 Author Posted June 14, 2008 (edited) ###### i need to find that paint where did you get it I got it at Hobby Lobby. I havent seen it anywhere else, but then again I just kinda ran into it. Heres some pics. This is to show you its a smaller can. Heres a closer look. Hope this helps! Edited June 25, 2008 by abedooley
abedooley Posted June 14, 2008 Author Posted June 14, 2008 (edited) Two of the best things you can test out various paints on are these. 1-The back of the plastic signs you can buy at Wal-Mart, hardware stores, etc. You know, the ones that say "Keep Out", "Beware Of Dog" or whatever. Whenever I'm painting candies, pearls & the like I have two, (one has all lacquer primers/base coats for testing lacquer top coats, the other has lacquer primers & enamel base coats for testing enamel top coats), that I'll tape to the outside of my paintbooth, (as it's a wardrobe box, this works well). These signs have the following vertical, (when taped in the direction I use) stripes on them: White primer, gray primer, red oxide primer, metallic gold, metallic silver, & gloss black. All I have to do is spray a horizontal stripe of whatever color coat I'm planning to use across these stripes to get an exact look at how the color coat looks over different bases. About once a year or so, I'll have to prep a new sign for testing, & it costs about a dollar is all. Pretty cheap & very effective. 2-Plastic spoons. These are great for trying out different painting techniques, (much as you're doing Abe), & have the added benefit of being curved so you can get a good idea of reflection, light refraction, depth of shine & such. These also come in Handy if I want to test a shade like I do with the signs, but let's say I'm trying a candy blue over a blue base coat. I don't have blue as a base coat on those signs, so the spoons to the rescue! A big thanks to Steve Milberry for posting this tip on the forum! This is also a cheap thing to do. Hope these help Abe! The back of plastic signs??? Thats a GREAT idea!!! I have about 5 of those layin in the shed!! I've only been able to buy the paints as I need them, but I've been trying to get at least one extra the last few times I went to buy some. Unfortunately I do have an airbrush, but not an air compressor. On top of that, the airbrush I have has a crack in the cone and I dont think anyone near sells Badger parts. Here in Columbus, Indiana, we have 1 Hobby store, that I know of, and its just a general Hobby Lobby. The nearest hobby store that sells aftermarket parts and such is Hobby Town USA about 45 miles north of me. I hate bein broke!!!! Edited June 14, 2008 by abedooley
abedooley Posted June 16, 2008 Author Posted June 16, 2008 i used the stuff you are asking about to "flake" the top of a mild custom '56 Chevy. it goes on with a bit more texture than i would like. to get the top of the '56 as smooth as a normal paint job is going to take ALOT of clear and colorsanding. more clear than i think a model car should have on it. i also used it on the dashboard of a 60's style '32 Ford hot rod i built. there the rough texture of the red flake wasn't as noticeable and it did provide a nice effect in the interior. i've seen that paint in red, green and regular silver glitter type flake in the stores here in Virginia. Dave Yeah, it is kinda coarse isn't it?? Thats the only thing I didn't like about too, but I'm still learnin and was willin to put however many coats of clear as I had to. I also noticed that when I put a light coat on it wasn't NEARLY as coarse as a heavy coat. The stuff Rollin was talkin about sounded much better. Sorry I gave ya a bad tip.. I'll pay closer attention from now on. I am pretty sure I'm just gonna go with the Dupli-Color's "Metalspeck" or the color shifting from Dupli-Color too. When I do paint the body, I'm not gonna paint the stripes in Metalspeck. If it doesnt look right then I'll be upset . I've been wondering how that would look anyway, so I might as well check it out. TRIAL AND ERROR right??!! I really am sorry though. I didn't think about putting too many coats of clear on, and I honestly didnt think you could, but it makes since now that you've said something. THANKS FOR LETTING ME KNOW.
MikeMc Posted June 21, 2008 Posted June 21, 2008 If you want to see something that really adds a lotta pop , is scale and if done right doesn't look trashy or cheap. Its a clear rattlecan duplacolor lacquer called "CLEAR EFFEX".......WOW I tried it on 4 or 5 solid colors and worked nice on a dark gloss finish. Then I shot this '72 pickup with duplacolor metalic black and currant red,followed by 2 light coats of "CLEAR EFFEX"and 5 coats of clear. The effect is unreal in the sun.... I have not rubbed or polished this out yet.
abedooley Posted June 22, 2008 Author Posted June 22, 2008 (edited) If you want to see something that really adds a lotta pop , is scale and if done right doesn't look trashy or cheap. Its a clear rattlecan duplacolor lacquer called "CLEAR EFFEX".......WOW I tried it on 4 or 5 solid colors and worked nice on a dark gloss finish. Then I shot this '72 pickup with duplacolor metalic black and currant red,followed by 2 light coats of "CLEAR EFFEX"and 5 coats of clear. The effect is unreal in the sun.... I have not rubbed or polished this out yet. WOW!!!!! That is amazing! Thats a whole lot of different effects... and none of them conflict with each other?? I was wanting to try the dupli-color stuff, and I was told it was to scale and real crisp.. VERY NICE MIKE!!! I AM VERY IMPRESSED!! Edited June 22, 2008 by abedooley
drekcreg Posted January 20, 2009 Posted January 20, 2009 The back of plastic signs??? Thats a GREAT idea!!! I have about 5 of those layin in the shed!! I've only been able to buy the paints as I need them, but I've been trying to get at least one extra the last few times I went to buy some. Unfortunately I do have an airbrush, but not an air compressor. On top of that, the airbrush I have has a crack in the cone and I dont think anyone near sells Badger parts. Here in Columbus, Indiana, we have 1 Hobby store, that I know of, and its just a general Hobby Lobby. The nearest hobby store that sells aftermarket parts and such is Hobby Town USA about 45 miles north of me. I hate bein broke!!!! not sure if its closer, but theres a shop here in clarksville that sells badger parts. mayb itll help sum. HAPPY HOBBIES Monday Thru Saturday: 10am to 7pm Phone: 812.282.0060 Address: 1398 Eastern Blvd Clarksville, IN 47129
Smart-Resins Posted January 20, 2009 Posted January 20, 2009 try a gloss black base, light silver flake over it, and then a candy or transparent red over it all i use duplicolor paints mostly... their "metalspecks" line is like "scale flakes" and their "metalcast" line is just like candy..... Thats all I swear by is Duplicolor paints! I will add that the effex is very cool as well!! Here is a two toned mustang with the effex over it that my 9 year old daughter did! Definatly, nothing particularly go well under black. Its like trying to see the sun shine through the clouds on a dark cloudy night. It just doesnt work! LOl. Jody
MikeMc Posted January 21, 2009 Posted January 21, 2009 not a krylon fan BUT....duplacolor has just what ya want...it is lacquer though. Its called "Clear Effex". its in a clear base you shoot it on your base in 1 or 2 light coats then shoot regular clear over. The roof on this magnum is alive!...The pickup is more subtile...mainly due to the base color! then again go to michaels or jo ann and pickup some "Jacquard " brand pearls(embossing powder), mix a pinch of your choice into your favorite clear , follow above instructions for a wow paint job....I mixed the #686 pearl into clear and used it as a blend on my '41 street rod fade..
DR Dubois Posted January 28, 2009 Posted January 28, 2009 Something you guys might be interested in trying is Createx Auto Air paints. Comes in a wide variety of colours and effects in small scale and takes automotive clear like regular base coat. I don't know how clear this is but if you can see, the metallics in this Plum Pearl are very fine giving the illusion of scale metal flake!
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