1968 Lincoln

[ranma]

What would be a good source for the engine? I'm going to repaint/rebuild this 68 that I found at a garage sale.

[Ron Hamilton]

The AMT '65 Lincoln would have an engine that will fit, or depending on what you want to do, any AMT Ford FE motor with the hole in the block for the axle to pass through will work with no muss or fuss.

[ranma]

I was thinking the 65 would work but was not sure of the differences between the 65's engine and the 68's. Anyway how rare is the 68????

[64Comet404]

It is a different engine from the 1965 Lincoln. The 1968 could be found with two different engines; a 462 V8 (1966-mid 1968), and the 460 V8. The 460 can be found in the old AMT Ford F350 truck kits, and I think that someone had been casting the original 462.

[Ron Hamilton]

I was thinking the 65 would work but was not sure of the differences between the 65's engine and the 68's. Anyway how rare is the 68????

In the real world, the '68 Lincoln had a 460, and the '65 had a 462. The '66-69 AMT Lincoln kits had Chrome plated engines, while the'65 and earlier had painted engine, which looked pretty much the same to me. Each year of the suicide-door Lincoln kits were annuals, save the '65 convertible, so they are very rare, and can be quite expensive on the open market as an unbuilt kit. The '68 is the one I do not have. If I had one, I would convert it into a 2-Door coupe. I'm converting a '66 Sedan into a convertible as I am writing this.

[Mercuryman54]

Early model 68's had the 462 cu.in. engine. Which can be found in the AMT 1965 Lincoln kit. The mid year late 68's had the 460 cu. in. engine. So any thing with the (385 series engine) 429/460.  

Edited August 6, 2017 by Mercuryman54

[Mercuryman54]

The 1965 Lincoln has the 430 cu.in. engine. With some work it should look close to the 462.  The difference between the 430 and 462 was internal. Bore and stroke. 

Edited August 6, 2017 by Mercuryman54

[tim boyd]

Early model 68's had the 462 cu.in. engine. Which can be found in the AMT 1965 Lincoln kit. The mid year late 68's had the 460 cu. in. engine. So any thing with the (385 series engine) 429/460.  

Absolutely correct.  

MEL scale V8 engine sources include the AMT '25T Double Kit, the AMT '61-'65 and '66-69 Continental kits (even though the real car switched over to the 385 series 460 V8 at mid-year 1968, AMT continued with the MEL engine to the end of the run).  The '69 was reissued as part of the AMT-Ertl Buyer's Choice program some years ago, IIRC).  

MEL's look the same from the outside (although the valve covers on the AMT kit are not correct - they're more like 1957 Lincoln Y-Block units).  

By far the best and most accurate source for a 385 series engine is the Revell '70 Torino GT/Cobra kits.   Calnaga Castings used to offer this engine, but his product lineup is on hold while he is completing a key strategic assignment for his employer out of state.   

FE V-8's were not used in these generations of Lincolns....hope this helps a bit...

TIM

[Mercuryman54]

Tim was talking about MEL engines. Most of you probably know what he was talking about. But for those who don't. MEL stands for Mercury-Edsel-Lincoln. About 1957-1968. Mercuries used these engines I think from 1957-60. Edsel 1958-59. Lincoln 1957-68. ( approx. years)

[ChrisBcritter]

AMT didn't do much to this engine over the years; the '66 T-bird engine will probably do in a pinch as well.

O/T, but are you going to use those wire wheels? Member Brandriet16 was looking for a set a while back:

 

[Mark]

The '66-'69 kits had an all-chrome engine; all of the parts were on one tree.  It's not the same as the '62-'65 kit engine, but probably won't make much of a difference.

Someone mentioned the AMT Ford pickup ('75-'78) engine: though listed on the box as a 460, it's really a 360 (last of the FE series).  The only really good 429/460 engine out there is in the Revell '70 Torino kits.

[Can-Con]

The '69 was reissued as part of the AMT-Ertl Buyer's Choice program some years ago, IIRC).  

 

Unfortunately, no, the '69 was never reissued. That was the '65.

[tim boyd]

Tim was talking about MEL engines. Most of you probably know what he was talking about. But for those who don't. MEL stands for Mercury-Edsel-Lincoln. About 1957-1968. Mercuries used these engines I think from 1957-60. Edsel 1958-59. Lincoln 1957-68. ( approx. years)

The MEL was first introduced for the 1958 model year.  In addition to the applications above, it was also an optional engine for the Thunderbird in 1959 and 1960 only IIRC.   

[tim boyd]

Unfortunately, no, the '69 was never reissued. That was the '65.

Steve, I thought you were wrong on this, but The Directory of Model Car Kits, Seventh Edition confirms your statement.   Thanks for the correction!  TIM 

Edited August 9, 2017 by tim boyd

[Mercuryman54]

I forgot about the Thunderbird. A friend of mine had a 1959 with a 430.