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Figured we could use a reference for this Ford truck styling cycle that would be a help for those building or rebuilding the vintage AMT trucks or the currently available resin kits. Or maybe even just to supply some eye-candy for the old truck fans... B)    If you have quality pics, bring 'em on...

'66 F100 Ranger Custom Cab

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'66 Ranger Custom Cab

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'65 F100

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'66 F250 4x4

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Some measurements I've taken to both check the accuracy of the amt cab and to possibly help with modifying the old amt unibody into a regular cab. Note that the '64-'66 cabs are taller above the rain gutters than the '61-'63 cabs.

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Nice trucks..!   I have a couple of the old AMTs I want to restore...one has the overhead camper top but it has a ton of glue on it and pretty messed up sadly.  I cant believe they have not re-issued this one yet.

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 An AMT 1964 F100 would have been nice back in the day but, obviously would have required a lot of retooling. The '66 is similar bodywise..The '62-'63 styleside   can be built combining the  Dan models '62 Ford cab  or Motor City '63 Ford pickup  cab and the bed of the AMT 1960 Ford pickup. All F 350's ( bottom photo 1 ton ) and most 4x4's came with larger cut out  front fenders ( the bottom scallop line is cut out of the standard fender). IMO, the AMT '53 Ford is the best donor for a 6' flareside (stepside).  Hopefully the 8 and 9 ft Flaresides will become available someday to really add to the variety of build ideas.

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1 hour ago, Ace-Garageguy said:

Anybody know the diameter of those heavy 6-bolt wheels? I see them on a lot of medium duty older Fords.

Well I've seen 16, 16.5, 17 and others. Also in the 62-63 Ford Shop man. F-100 thru F-400 are considered "light duty" trucks.

 

 

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46 minutes ago, Day 2 Muscle said:

Anybody know the diameter of those heavy 6-bolt wheels? I see them on a lot of medium duty older Fords.

Well I've seen 16, 16.5, 17 and others. Also in the 62-63 Ford Shop man. F-100 thru F-400 are considered "light duty" trucks.

1961 F600 below. I assume this is medium duty? Heavy 6-bolt wheels?

I'm not being argumentative. I know very little about real (not pickup) trucks. Just trying to learn what's correct for what.

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Don't have any info on the fifties. And like most others, I've always thought the larger trucks were med. duty also, but according to Ford only the 500, 550, 600 were med. duty.

Guess its time to do some deep searching .

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Over at http://www.fordification.info/, Keith is busy adding '61-'66 data to the wealth of information on his '67-'79 Ford sites. Brochures, tech info, schematics and all kinds of cool stuff like a page explaining the unibody and interesting evolution in box styles...  http://www.fordification.info/tech/wrongbed.htm.

Good info like this showing the 4x4 wheel usage- 5 lugs on F100 and eight lugs on F250. The six lug wheels were used only on the F350 and up.

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'66 352 V8

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On ‎3‎/‎11‎/‎2018 at 11:17 AM, Ace-Garageguy said:

Anybody know the diameter of those heavy 6-bolt wheels? I see them on a lot of medium duty older Fords.

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This wheel is the most common wheel found on '61-'66 F 350's, its a 2 piece 16". The optional wheel was the solid 17.5". All F 350 came with the 6 lug pattern.

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On ‎3‎/‎11‎/‎2018 at 1:11 PM, Ace-Garageguy said:

1961 F600 below. I assume this is medium duty? Heavy 6-bolt wheels?

I'm not being argumentative. I know very little about real (not pickup) trucks. Just trying to learn what's correct for what.

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The F 600 shown is considered a medium duty truck. The beefier end of the medium duty line was the F 700 and F 750 (same sheet metal styling). The most common wheel size on F 600 was 2 piece 20". Optional was the 22.5" solid.  The F 750 ( black and white photo) used the common 10 lug Budd or spokes in 10.00-20.

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 The heavy duty conventional used the larger front end, but basically the same cab. Dan models offers an excellent heavy duty Ford cab identical to this one. Interestingly the cab styling on the heavy duty trucks continued to the  1969 year model, while the medium duty styling ended in 1966. To get an idea of the weight capacities involved on a heavy duty  T 950 below, the max GVW is 62,000 on the straight chassis, a 12, 15 or 18K front axle and 38 or 44K rear axles

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29 minutes ago, leafsprings said:

This wheel is the most common wheel found on '61-'66 F 350's, its a 2 piece 16". The optional wheel was the solid 17.5". All F 350 came with the 6 lug pattern.

 

24 minutes ago, leafsprings said:

The F 600 shown is considered a medium duty truck. The beefier end of the medium duty line was the F 700 and F 750 (same sheet metal styling). The most common wheel size on F 600 was 2 piece 20". Optional was the 22.5" solid.

 

6 minutes ago, leafsprings said:

The heavy duty conventional used the larger front end, but basically the same cab. Dan models offers an excellent heavy duty Ford cab identical to this one. Interestingly the cab styling on the heavy duty trucks continued to the  1969 year model, while the medium duty styling ended in 1966.

 

Thanks, thanks, and thanks. Most helpful.

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Note also that the stock Ford wheels were not 'dished', as supplied in some currently available Ford truck kits, but actually had kind of a 'domed' center section as seen in the bottom pic. The only dished style 1:1 wheels I've ever seen have a GM bolt pattern.   

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Hubcap reference photos! 1965  F 100 used carryover 1961 thru 1964  "bottle cap" style hubcaps. Came painted argent silver or white with red letters. or shiny stainless steel with black letters. 1966  F 100 used the new outer bump style wheels with  "Galaxie" style hubcaps. Came argent silver with red trim or stainless with black trim.

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No that the release date comes closer, a few more reference details are in order. In 1966 Ford standardize engine colors in cars and pickups for all engines Ford Blue. However, before this, engine colors were different depending on engine. In 1965, the 352 V8 in pickups was all black except for gold valve covers and the 240-300  6 from my research was all black.

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Very interesting, Brian. Looks like some kind of a unibody conversion with regular cab doors.

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I'm told these hubcaps came in the '63 amt kit. Hope someone picks these up in resin...

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