What is the second engine in the AMT 49 Ford Gas Man kit

[Dave G.]

Just curious if someone might know what it is. I built one of the original 49 Ford kits way back in the early 60's or so, actually several of them. One I built that was a favorite of mine that i painted maroon, put slicks and traction bars on it and an Olds engine with I think tri power carbs, de-chromed the body sides etc. I don't recall if the engine came with the kit and no clue what engines comes with Gas  Man kit.

Edited November 8, 2018 by Dave G.
corrected spelling

[espo]

The second engine in this kit is supposed to represent an early Cadillac engine as that was a fairly common engine swap in the early '50's. 

[Ace-Garageguy]

To be more precise, it represents a first-generation overhead valve (OHV) V8 Caddy, introduced in 1949 in a 331 cu.in. displacement. It was built in increasingly larger displacements of the same basic design (and all very similar visually) of 365 and 390 cu.in. through 1962 (the '63 390, though similar in many ways, is a different engine).

It is the same engine represented by the Revell "354" Cadillac parts-pack engine.Though Cadillac never actually made a 354, the typo was on the original production packaging from Revell, and was never corrected.

                                                        

It was a very popular engine for swaps after its introduction, and more than a few "Fordillacs" were built.

 

Edited November 6, 2018 by Ace-Garageguy

[Dave G.]

OK guys thanks. So what is the carburation offered for this Caddy engine within the kit ?

[Ace-Garageguy]

While I don't have the "Gas Man" issue on the shelf, the Cadillac induction options should be the same as earlier issues: three 2-barrels, or a blower.

Cadillac parts on the left, below.

Edited November 6, 2018 by Ace-Garageguy

[Dave G.]

2 minutes ago, Ace-Garageguy said:

While I don't have the "Gas Man" issue on the shelf, the induction options should be the same as earlier issues: three 2-barrels, or a blower.

Ok, seeing I was maybe 12 at the time I built this, I either took the three two barrels and put them on an Olds engine that came in a Willies kit I never liked much ( robbed a bunch of parts from that for other kits as I recall) or I thought the Caddy was an Olds. It's too long ago to recall that fine a detail.

Thanks for all the info !

[Ace-Garageguy]

The Olds and Caddy engines look a lot alike, and were designed along the same lines at the same time by GM...though nothing actually interchanges on the real ones. But it's not hard to mistake an Olds for a Caddy in 1/25 scale, especially when you're 12.  

[Jon Haigwood]

15 hours ago, Ace-Garageguy said:

While I don't have the "Gas Man" issue on the shelf, the Cadillac induction options should be the same as earlier issues: three 2-barrels, or a blower.

Cadillac parts on the left, below.

Indeed it did come with the Tri-power and Blower options. Just checked mine.

[Dave G.]

47 minutes ago, Jon Haigwood said:

Indeed it did come with the Tri-power and Blower options. Just checked mine.

Thanks Jon.

 

[Deuces]

Does the newer deluxe kit have those parts????

Sorry to ask, but mine is buried somewhere.... ?

[Dave G.]

2 hours ago, Deuces said:

Does the newer deluxe kit have those parts????

Sorry to ask, but mine is buried somewhere.... ?

Dueces, what's a deluxe kit about  ? I'm not familiar with that one. I have no loyalty to this GasMan thing, the rendition I want to build is more street rod/ street and strip. custom/retro and haven't bought a kit yet..

Edited November 7, 2018 by Dave G.

[Ace-Garageguy]

4 minutes ago, Dave G. said:

Dueces, what's a deluxe kit about  ? I'm not familiar with that one. I have no loyalty to this GasMan thing, the rendition I want to build is more street rod/ custom/retro and haven't bought a kit yet..

Pretty sure he means the "Retro Deluxe" issue. See box contents below. The Caddy 3X2 and blower setups are clearly there.

[Dave G.]

I see. So are there non deluxe/retro kits out there as well ? A local hobby store want $32 for Gas man kit, Amazon $23 I think, maybe this is why and I wasn't aware of this. It seems like model car kits used to be a simple straight forward purchase way back when.

[Rob Hall]

Just now, Dave G. said:

I see. So are there non deluxe/retro kits out there as well ? A local hobby store want $32 for Gas man kit, Amazon $23 I think, maybe this is why and I wasn't aware of this. It seems like model car kits used to be a simple straight forward purchase way back when.

No, the Round 2 AMT reissues of the last 5 years or so have all been labeled as 'Retro Deluxe'.   $25-ish is the usual price for them from online hobby vendors...

[Dave G.]

7 minutes ago, Rob Hall said:

No, the Round 2 AMT reissues of the last 5 years or so have all been labeled as 'Retro Deluxe'.   $25-ish is the usual price for them from online hobby vendors...

I just checked Amazon prime, it's $21.95 with free shipping. I'm in favor of a local shop staying in business but not $11 worth on a single kit. I think he is more in line on the 40 ford coupe though.

[Rob Hall]

1 minute ago, Dave G. said:

I just checked Amazon prime, it's $21.95 with free shipping. I'm in favor of a local shop staying in business but not $11 worth on a single kit. 

Interesting..I'm a 20+ year Amazon customer and buy a lot of things from them, but never looked for model kits on Amazon...

[Dave G.]

1 hour ago, Rob Hall said:

Interesting..I'm a 20+ year Amazon customer and buy a lot of things from them, but never looked for model kits on Amazon...

Always worth a look see, course it doesn't always work out either.

[Dave G.]

23 hours ago, Rob Hall said:

Interesting..I'm a 20+ year Amazon customer and buy a lot of things from them, but never looked for model kits on Amazon...

As I said, always worth a look see. Amazon wants $39.90 for the ICM 1/24 scale model T roaster and that local guy is $59 and change.

[Jon Haigwood]

My Gas Man  is going a different direction