Gravity feed to siphon/side feed conversion

[aurfalien]

Hi,

I just purchased a side feed conversion kit for my Harder and Steenbeck air brush.

I got tired of spillage even with the cup cap on and not being able to see how much paint was left.

Plus I can prep the paint in the side feed jar.

A very well worth while upgrade.

Here is what the kit looks like;

 

[Dave G.]

18 minutes ago, aurfalien said:

Hi,

I just purchased a side feed conversion kit for my Harder and Steenbeck air brush.

I got tired of spillage even with the cup cap on and not being able to see how much paint was left.

Plus I can prep the paint in the side feed jar.

A very well worth while upgrade.

Here is what the kit looks like;

 

Looks good, I'd be curious of how your air pressure and thin rates change if any. Top feed I think is good for small details using low pressure and with small volumes of paint. I know I use a side color cup on my Badger 200 for those sort of things and have considered a top feed gun but never made the move in 40 years so far. With a side color cup there is no issue lifting a few drops of paint, where with jars the tube may not be in the paint. Otherwise jars are fine for me. They probably make a color cup for your rig there, though I suppose all you have to do is put the top cup back on if you want to ever use it that way again.

[aurfalien]

22 minutes ago, Dave G. said:

Looks good, I'd be curious of how your air pressure and thin rates change if any. Top feed I think is good for small details using low pressure and with small volumes of paint.

Interesting info.

What air pressure do you use for small detail and small volumes of paint?

 

[Dave G.]

9 minutes ago, aurfalien said:

Interesting info.

What air pressure do you use for small detail and small volumes of paint?

 

Right around10 psi with paints thinned pretty loose. It's a bottom feed brush though, with side cup. You're drawing up and over and i have not seen that configuration in action before. I'm just curious is all, be sure to let us know how you get along with it.

Edited November 11, 2018 by Dave G.

[aurfalien]

17 minutes ago, Dave G. said:

I'm just curious is all, be sure to let us know how you get along with it.

I most certainly will.  Thanks for the info.

 

 

[peteski]

Funny, I use a Badger 200, which is a siphon-feed airbrush. I do have a metal-cup adapter, but I almost never use it. I like the fact that I don't have to worry about spilling paint from an open-top cup.  For air pressures I use anywhere from 10-30psi. No problem with the siphon picking up the paint (airbrush-consistency paint is pretty thin).

[aurfalien]

26 minutes ago, peteski said:

Funny, I use a Badger 200, which is a siphon-feed airbrush. I do have a metal-cup adapter, but I almost never use it. I like the fact that I don't have to worry about spilling paint from an open-top cup.  For air pressures I use anywhere from 10-30psi. No problem with the siphon picking up the paint (airbrush-consistency paint is pretty thin).

Nice info, thank you.

I read some reviews on this conversion kit but actually spoke to some one using it.  Based on that convo I bought it.  I'm looking forward in trying it out once I get back into the swing of things.

[935k3]

Can you show a picture of how this all goes together?

[Dave G.]

That knurled fitting to the side of the jar screws into the top of the airbrush body where the to cup would normally be on a gravity feed brush.. Of course it becomes obvious that the posters AB has a removable cup.

I suspect it's going to work very well, I was just curious of the difference between it and a bottom feed with side cup in terms of pressure etc, if any. There may be no difference.

[Dave G.]

13 hours ago, peteski said:

Funny, I use a Badger 200, which is a siphon-feed airbrush. I do have a metal-cup adapter, but I almost never use it. I like the fact that I don't have to worry about spilling paint from an open-top cup.  For air pressures I use anywhere from 10-30psi. No problem with the siphon picking up the paint (airbrush-consistency paint is pretty thin).

I don't always use the side cup with my 200 either. I find it lends itself well to little jobs where just a little paint will be used. Also testing paints for color and flow where quick changes may be made. I find the metal color cup has it's uses for me but I wouldn't want to be without the jars for more volumes of paint, especially with the large needle and nozzle combo. ( that can really go through the paint, especially if you screw up and use the medium needle like I did once). .

Edited November 12, 2018 by Dave G.
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[aurfalien]

6 hours ago, 935k3 said:

Can you show a picture of how this all goes together?

Sure thing.  I have a removable cup as Dave had mentioned.

[Dave G.]

Hah ! Now you gotta spray some 2% milk through it and let us know how it flows lol ! Seriously though, that looks great. Sure is a pretty looking AB.

Edited November 12, 2018 by Dave G.

[aurfalien]

14 minutes ago, Dave G. said:

Hah ! Now you gotta spray some 2% milk through it and let us know how it flows lol ! Seriously though, that looks great. Sure is a pretty looking AB.

Thank you sir.  I was regretting getting such an advanced air brush as I used free points to get it.  However I've grown to like it very much and am getting the hang of it.

I keep it very clean and neat.

Edited November 12, 2018 by aurfalien

[Dave G.]

37 minutes ago, aurfalien said:

Thank you sir.  I was regretting getting such an advanced air brush as I used free points to get it.  However I've grown to like it very much and am getting the hang of it.

I keep it very clean and neat.

Well it's a quality tool and will last you a lifetime.

[aurfalien]

12 minutes ago, Dave G. said:

Well it's a quality tool and will last you a lifetime.

For sure.  I'd recommend them if it weren't for the price of accessories.

The support is prompt and very good though.

That little conversion set ran me $30 but I was very very very tired  of the cup.

Edited November 12, 2018 by aurfalien

[935k3]

You might consider getting the Mr Creos 290 with a trigger and very large cup. The tip is .5mm. It also comes with a fan spray head for a very wide spray(doing bodies) They are $110 free 3 day shipping at  spraygunnner. com. You can get nice Iwata handle that fits for $18 on Amazon. It's aplastic handle with pipe to extend the air connection.

 

 

Edited November 12, 2018 by 935k3

[Dave G.]

2 hours ago, aurfalien said:

For sure.  I'd recommend them if it weren't for the price of accessories.

The support is prompt and very good though.

That little conversion set ran me $30 but I was very very very tired  of the cup.

I don't think I'm changing anything at this stage of life in terms of brands, have had good luck with both Badger and Paasche in terms of function and support, for 40+ years in the case of Badger, less time with Paasche. And actually they are both supported in the aftermarket well anyway ( genuine parts through dealers).