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Thanks for showing us what is in the box. I am a little annoyed that they molded it in black, but there are so many swirls that a Supernatural fan who isn't a modeler is sure to be disappointed. I hope they do well with it no matter what.

Posted
9 minutes ago, Rodent said:

Thanks for showing us what is in the box. I am a little annoyed that they molded it in black, but there are so many swirls that a Supernatural fan who isn't a modeler is sure to be disappointed. I hope they do well with it no matter what.

Yeah, I am not all that thrilled with it being molded in black, but, it is better than Red! 

I am sure they molded in color to appeal more to who this kit is aimed at, fans of the show who rarely, or don't, build models. 

 

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2 minutes ago, Daddyfink said:

Yeah, I am not all that thrilled with it being molded in black, but, it is better than Red! 

I am sure they molded in color to appeal more to who this kit is aimed at, fans of the show who rarely, or don't, build models. 

 

Understood, but it would have been better if they did a nice enough job that the fans could build it without paint. We know how to get around this stuff,  but they don't. 

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It is weird that as I unpacked the pieces, the plastic gave me an "Early 80's MPC Feel" 

Does that make sense? The swirls, the flash and the feel of the plastic had memories rushing back of opening an MPC in the 80's

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43 minutes ago, Daddyfink said:

It is weird that as I unpacked the pieces, the plastic gave me an "Early 80's MPC Feel" 

Does that make sense? The swirls, the flash and the feel of the plastic had memories rushing back of opening an MPC in the 80's

Yes. Just looking at the pics gave me some kind of a feeling that I couldn't pin down, but I think you got it! 

Your body profile pic is great. At least I think it looks good, with my head turned sideways. :wacko:

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Thanks for sharing the photos. As a HUGE fan of the show and a modeler, you're right, I'll be able to work around it. But I agree, molded in white would have been much better. Probably the next release will be molded in white, unless it's a fire chief's car or another Coke release, lol. Yea, I did think it looked like an MPC kit, now that you mentioned it. I wish the underside of the trunk would have been scribbled better so I can cut it open easier. Oh well, I'm just super glad it's hear at all. Been waiting a long time for this model kit.

Jeff 

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21 minutes ago, Snake45 said:

Yes. Just looking at the pics gave me some kind of a feeling that I couldn't pin down, but I think you got it! 

Your body profile pic is great. At least I think it looks good, with my head turned sideways. :wacko:

Sorry about that! I guess the phone didn't rotate when I took the pics. 

But here you go

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Posted
4 hours ago, Dale Gribble said:

Man , that front seat is a huge disappointment . Would it have killed them to tool up a correct 1:1 bench seat ?? 

It is correct for the vehicle it represents.

Posted
3 hours ago, niteowl7710 said:

It is correct for the vehicle it represents.

I guess . I see it as a huge shortcoming. Why can’t it represent an actual 1:1 seat though?? 

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Am I supposed to believe that a newly tooled body has EPM's that deep and that much flash? I can't imagine you're going to get away without block sanding sink marks on the trunk with those beneath the surface.

Posted

No thx , I use to see the real cars yes there were 4 of them and there all rust buckets ,the body's are all bondo  The black paint is not the best , and they sound untuned ,But to see all the Flash on a new Kit ? QC is not the top Priority here ? my 2 cents .

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13 minutes ago, Justin Porter said:

Am I supposed to believe that a newly tooled body has EPM's that deep and that much flash? I can't imagine you're going to get away without block sanding sink marks on the trunk with those beneath the surface.

 

7 minutes ago, Mr mopar said:

But to see all the Flash on a new Kit ? QC is not the top Priority here ? my 2 cents .

I have some limited experience with injection molding. When a mold is first put into service, the amount of material injected, the temperatures, the mold and ejector speeds and cooling times, all need to be dialed in via trial and error. It is very possible, that though some of these first batches of kits may have those issues, but as they get the settings dialed in, the work could improve.

Posted (edited)

Took 7 posts after Jesse's pics (thank you) before ripping it apart started. :)

Not about you Dale, or Justin. In general in new kit threads. Always. ?

Everyone can have opinions, that's what this place is for. But realize that many of the Coke/Elvis/FnF/Supernaturals will never get built. Not like our stashes, but fans/memorabilia collectors. Sits on shelf with other Brand memorabilia. 

Doesn't excuse stuff. Just know that market is who will PAY for the tool. Without them, anymore, you wouldn't see a 53 year old mid line 4 door hardtop. EVER. 

If it looks bad, don't buy it. Or fix it. Proportions are decent. way better than diecasts of it. 

For us, it's kitbash fodder, or Grandma Dammits car (old tv ref, I'm old) :)

Like Snake says, build on. And be well. 

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Just now, Jantrix said:

 

I have some limited experience with injection molding. When a mold is first put into service, the amount of material injected, the temperatures, the mold and ejector speeds and cooling times, all need to be dialed in via trial and error. It is very possible, that though some of these first batches of kits may have those issues, but as they get the settings dialed in, the work could improve.

My experience was in blow molding rather than injection molding, so I can relate, but really this was a chance for Round 2 to put a good foot forward and ideally in front of customers who may be new to the model car end of the brand. This is very disappointing work for a company with so much potential given their tooling reserve, market reach, and licensing opportunities. 

Posted

Perhaps it's just me , but that "flash" looks like black electrical tape ---- like Jesse is using it to tape the body to the green cutting board in order to stage it for photos .

Conversely , it does appear that there may be some along the underside of the rain gutters (?)

Posted
1 hour ago, Justin Porter said:

Am I supposed to believe that a newly tooled body has EPM's that deep and that much flash? I can't imagine you're going to get away without block sanding sink marks on the trunk with those beneath the surface.

I've been removing flash and molding marks and block-sanding for decades. It's just something that real modelers doB)

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Just now, Snake45 said:

I've been removing flash and molding marks and block-sanding for decades. It's just something that real modelers doB)

It's something that I do too, real modeler or otherwise. I just prefer to do it because I'm making alterations to the model rather than correcting quality control errors. I believe you've coined the term "backbirth" for kits with massive accuracy errors. I tend to regard quality control errors in the same category: a model kit company not doing its job to provide a complete product.

Posted
18 minutes ago, Snake45 said:

I've been removing flash and molding marks and block-sanding for decades. It's just something that real modelers doB)

Uh-oh. :) Someone will jump on this.

I agree. If I could just get past primer and final mockup. Flash, sinks, parting lines gone. Doh. 

Posted
12 minutes ago, Justin Porter said:

It's something that I do too, real modeler or otherwise. I just prefer to do it because I'm making alterations to the model rather than correcting quality control errors. I believe you've coined the term "backbirth" for kits with massive accuracy errors. I tend to regard quality control errors in the same category: a model kit company not doing its job to provide a complete product.

I didn't coin the term "backbirth" though I might have popularized it here. B)

Minor "quality control" problems, many of which are inherent in the injection molding process, don't rise (or sink) to "backbirth" status. 

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