Nascar Dry Sump Oil System

[gks1964]

Trying to find out when Nascars top division first began using the dry sump oil system? I've not been able to find any information about this! I figured this is the best place to ask the knowledgeable people here.

Thanks,

Gerald 

[yellowsportwagon]

57 minutes ago, gks1964 said:

Trying to find out when Nascars top division first began using the dry sump oil system? I've not been able to find any information about this! I figured this is the best place to ask the knowledgeable people here.

Thanks,

Gerald 

Top factory teams started 69-70

[DoctorLarry]

73 Big Block Chevelle:

[DoctorLarry]

Typical setup:

[john843]

I'm sure I remember reading in a recent discussion on this that Ford started using them on the Boss 429's when they became eligible to run in '69 and the ChryCo teams drifted to them pretty much immediately. Petty's flipping RR at Darlington in Apr. '70 had a DS system.

 

John

[gks1964]

Great pix!!  Anyone got any photo's of the '69-'70 Ford or Merc pan and oil tank or any system parts. 

 

Gerald

[yellowsportwagon]

23 minutes ago, gks1964 said:

Great pix!!  Anyone got any photo's of the '69-'70 Ford or Merc pan and oil tank or any system parts. 

 

Gerald

The ford oil tank was usually behind the drivers seat. The polar light Torino  has a dry sump pan for the 429 engine.

[john843]

Seems like the Ford pan was a 2 pc. unit with the rear 2/3rds constructed of magnesium and the front made of aluminum.

Only shot of one I saw didn't show the important part- the bottom:(

  https://www.talladegaspoilerregistry.com/2014/04/07/what-are-you-working-on-rick-and-kjell-team-up/

John

 

[gks1964]

1 minute ago, yellowsportwagon said:

The ford oil tank was usually behind the drivers seat. The polar light Torino  has a dry sump pan for the 429 engine.

I'll dig one out and have a look! Thanks.

Gerald

[yellowsportwagon]

Boss 29 pan

[yellowsportwagon]

The Polar pans not very accurate 

[gks1964]

2 minutes ago, john843 said:

Seems like the Ford pan was a 2 pc. unit with the rear 2/3rds constructed of magnesium and the front made of aluminum.

Only shot of one I saw didn't show the important part- the bottom:(

  https://www.talladegaspoilerregistry.com/2014/04/07/what-are-you-working-on-rick-and-kjell-team-up/

John

 

Lot of interesting pix there! Thanks

Gerald

[gks1964]

4 minutes ago, yellowsportwagon said:

Boss 29 pan

That is interesting! I'm going to hunt for a top view. If anyone has one PLEASE post it. Does the PL kit also have the oil tank?

Gerald 

[yellowsportwagon]

3 minutes ago, gks1964 said:

That is interesting! I'm going to hunt for a top view. If anyone has one PLEASE post it. Does the PL kit also have the oil tank?

Gerald 

No

[DoctorLarry]

Here are shots from a 68 bot not Boss 9. Appears to be wet sump as well.

[DoctorLarry]

I found this. Not the best.

[DoctorLarry]

I found another

[DoctorLarry]

Oil pan in car, web site:

https://canepa.com/photo-gallery/1975-ford-torino2244/

[john843]

46 minutes ago, DoctorLarry said:

Oil pan in car, web site:

https://canepa.com/photo-gallery/1975-ford-torino2244/

Easy to see the 2 pc. construction in this pic.

 

John

[yellowsportwagon]

Those are the best so far. Those flat Holman Moody headers would be awesome to have in scale.

[DoctorLarry]

They would be a booger to make, though!

 

[Bill J]

Here is the Chrysler 426 dry sump pan. That clunky looking bit on the side is the Mopar made pump.

[gks1964]

Thanks everybody!! If anyone has a photo of it off the engine post it.

Gerald 

[MarkJ]

They did use oil cooler radiators before then though. At least the 63 Ray Fox Chevy did. Front left corner  underhood  is oil cooler radiator and remote oil filter.

[gks1964]

45 minutes ago, MarkJ said:

They did use oil cooler radiators before then though. At least the 63 Ray Fox Chevy did. Front left corner  underhood  is oil cooler radiator and remote oil filter.

That's very interesting! The build is great!!

 

Gerald