Dodge Viper RT/10 "Rent-A-Car" Le Mans 1994

chaves pah · April 30, 2020

Did somebody build the Dodge Viper RT/10 "Rent-A-Car" Le Mans 1994 (1/25 AMT base)? I can I find the correct BBS wheels for this particular car?

70mach1 · May 1, 2020

Revell Porsche 911 GT1 EVO has those wheels.

Edited May 1, 2020 by 70mach1

chaves pah · May 2, 2020

Thank you very much, Andy, but I have to disagree totally with you... first of all the Viper is a 1/25 model, while the GT1 Evo is at 1/24... second, the Viper wheels centers are "outlined" by a multi nut rim, unlike the Porsche's... I posted this query yesterday, in total despair, since I found once in some modellers forum that the answer would be the Le Mans Miniatures Dauer Porsche, and, when I opened the box and tested it in my Viper, the world just collapsed... these wheels, with it's tires, are monstruous in this car! that is why I ranned to internet to find some help...

BUT, today, looking again to these wheels, I decided to try to figure a way to save it, so I began to test some tires from different cars and makes, and fond that the FRONT Dauer wheels, and TIRES, are exactly the proper size to fit the rear Viper wheels; so the next thing was to solve the front wheels problem, which is the REAL challenge...

First, tires had to have a smaller diameter; after extensive search I found that the Scale Production 16"/19" BBS front tires will be PERFECT, I have only to order it, but I found they are now out of stock... Now the final and Main problem: modifying the Dauer front wheels to become Viper wheels... the latter are quite different, the center part is considerably less deeper, and protrude the outer rim, so I will have to separate/cut the center part from the rim, glue it in a tube which outer diameter is exactely the inner diameter of the wheel rim, so I can pull it out about 1,5mm; in the end, I will have to trim the rear chromed metal rims to make it the same width of the front ones, and I WILL AT LAST BE ABLE TO FINISH MY 1994 "L' Orange" RT/10 Dodge Viper! I hope this is of help for you all...

matthijsgrit · May 3, 2020

I am not sure, but have you checked scaleprodution.de ?

He has LOADS of BBS wheels

stitchdup · May 3, 2020

If you cant get them from scaleproduction there is a seller on ebay called a-modeller (bna modelworld is his web shop) that has a load of older scale production wheels in stock. Shipping isn't much more than from germany or hobby design do a set of metal and resin rims but they dont have tyres

chaves pah · May 3, 2020

Yes, I usually buy in Scale Prod, but none fits this particular car... first, it would have to be 1/24 16", that would become 17" in 1/25; this Viper is in 1/25th scale... no one of his BBS in 16" have the surrounding multi nuts ring, that is clearly apparent in this car's wheels!... I will post some photos as soon as I have the wheels made... and have to be assured by him he will restock the 16"/19" BBSs , as I need the front 16" slicks from this set; I have one set already, but I am waiting for an ARII BMW 3.5 CSL, that will become Frank Stella's Le Mans Art Car, the only of the four 3.5 CSL built that used Bi Turbos, but was so powerful that needed much bigger/wider rear wheels to put all that power on the ground; wheels did hold it, but not the trans-axles... even a new and stronger one in the following year, barely did the job... 19"s will be great in the model, and this one will be static, no trans axle problems at all!

Thank you very much for keeping this thread on!

stitchdup · May 3, 2020

Any of these what your looking for? https://www.bnamodelworld.com/index.php?main_page=advanced_search_result&search_in_description=0&zenid=46b0eeb1a11441a5a23307eca0b72abf&keyword=bbs

chaves pah · May 5, 2020

Thank you very much but, the only ones in all that list, that I thought would fit, are the Hobby Designs 16" (I suppose the ones I bought are 16" but lost the bag...), the ones in this site are 18", but, if the size of the ones I bought is ok, they are unfortunately all VERY DEEP and, besides, it is impossible to correct it as the multi nut rings are molded in the outer rim, and, being SO tinny, it would be impossible to remove these rings to bring it 2,5 mm out without destroying it all... I am absolutely sure the only way is the method I described before... the way I am doing it, is fixing one of these flanges with expanding rubber where we fix a sanding tube, where I did put a 1/32 slot car tire reaching the interior diameter of the BBS wheel, and securing it so I could "machine" it in my "motor tool" in order to separate the central part of the wheel from the rim; next, glued it to the inner tube, that was then inserted inside the wheel rim;

The chromed outer rims where also modified: the front ones went to the rear wheels, and the wider ones (intended for the Dauer Rear wheels) where then cut to become a little slicker (about 1mm) than these that went to the rear wheels;

This is the way how I managed to get what I thing the Le Mans 1994 RT-10 Vipers BBS wheels look like, as you can see in the images; now what I need is a Zero-paints ZP-1009 Fluorescent Orange and a scratch rear spoiler; and yes, a racing seat also;

And then: building this fantastic beast that, in it's maiden race, achieved "the" 12th place!...

Jantrix · May 5, 2020

Revell C5R?

chaves pah · May 8, 2020

Beautiful 'Vette, Rob!I have one like yours to build, but this (these C5-Rs) model major drawback is the Very Poor wheels!... I had already lost some time with one wheel, but did put it apart; now, because of you I already spent 4 hours just to open the smaller holes inside each Y (10 each wheel...) of the two front wheels, and still have to find a way to clean these millions of microscopic grains of unwanted plastic in the insides... I have to find a tinny metallic bristles brush... for the other two 'Vettes I also have, that used the same BBSs, I think I will by two Scale Production 18" BBS GT (SPRF24030) wheels sets...I lost some 1/4 litre of my precious blood while using that new X-acto nº11 (?) extra long blade in this operation!...

But these Corvette BBS wheels are different from the Viper's... there is that "multi nuts" ring missing... And I noticed I still have to correct my Viper rear wheels, as the center part of these wheels will have to be pulled out as like the front ones... will have to undo what I did with the rear chromed metal outer rings and "machine" the resin part of the wheels, as I already explained above for the front wheel centers...

Thank you very much!

RancheroSteve · May 8, 2020

Just a possibility? This Tamiya Porsche (originally the Taisan Starcard 911 GT2) is 1/24, but the wheels look close, maybe? I can measure them if you'd like me to.

afx · May 8, 2020

Hope you start a build thread, looks like a great project.

afx · May 8, 2020

Close but still would require some modification.

Gramps46 · May 8, 2020

What JC said. Please keep us up to date with your progress.

williamdp · May 10, 2020

Good morning,

May I point out that the 1994 Viper RT/10's had 10 spoke wheels ?

Attached is how far I got .. before my fluo paint job decided to crackle up completely (it apparently did NOT like the clear that I used …)

IIRC, the wheels are based on a Fujimi set that used to be sold separately.

W.

Gramps46 · May 10, 2020

What a shame the paint did this William. The wheels look spot on.

gotnitro? · May 11, 2020

Look forward to your updates , the Viper is my absolute favorite car

chaves pah · May 11, 2020

Hi JC, well, I did already improve my chosen wheels, so I moved to another big issue, the hood, as this particular car is seen always without one... I suppose it would be sold as a roadster, as it does not have a rear windshield... so, I chopped an old ESCI 934 to get a roof for my Viper; it seemed a to be a "piece of cake"... cut it by the middle and added a 4mm plastic ribbon to increase the width and when I finally test fit it... the Viper just looked as the most beautiful of "all ever designed" trucks, the Spanish Z-206 Pegaso!... after checking the Viper blueprints I found that the AMT kit windshield is too high, or it might also be possible that these two racing Vipers had shorter windshields... a new rooftop was chopped from a Tamyia Moby Dick bought in a scrapyard sale and, after filing the windshield until reaching (above) the little protuberance where the rear mirror is attached, this time I think I finally made it! a little front spoiler was also added; the hole in the back is the second filler cap this car did have. Now I have to make a rear spoiler and the rear winshield (I found one photo where it clearly appears rear photos of this car are hard to find, and the rear spoiler is too big...)... there it is, that little white sticker...

some more to come...