porschercr Posted May 12, 2020 Share Posted May 12, 2020 (edited) I'm looking for an AMT kit that has an automatic transmission I'd prefer a C4 or slightly earlier. I've got an AMT 302, so I'd like it to mate up without a lot of modification ( don't mind doing some to the transmission tunnel. Trevor Edited May 12, 2020 by porschercr Added text Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slusher Posted May 12, 2020 Share Posted May 12, 2020 I May be wrong but the Ford Thunderbolt comes with an auto and manual... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevenGuthmiller Posted May 12, 2020 Share Posted May 12, 2020 (edited) The AMT '66 Fairlane and '67 Mercury Cyclone kits both have optional automatics as well. No idea what model they are though. Revell '64 Thunderbolt. AMT '66 Fairlane and '67 Cyclone. EDIT. It appears that the AMT tranny is a C6. Not sure about the Thunderbolt. Steve Edited May 12, 2020 by StevenGuthmiller Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MININORTHFORDMAN Posted May 12, 2020 Share Posted May 12, 2020 like Steven said the 66 fairlane has an automatic and also the revell ford fairlane thunderbolt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
porschercr Posted May 12, 2020 Author Share Posted May 12, 2020 Thanks all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bucky Posted May 12, 2020 Share Posted May 12, 2020 I may be wrong, but I think the C4 went on small block engines, and the C6 went on big block engines. There was also an FMX transmission, I believe, that might have been a two speed automatic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gman Posted May 12, 2020 Share Posted May 12, 2020 3 hours ago, porschercr said: I'm looking for an AMT kit that has an automatic transmission I'd prefer a C4 or slightly earlier. I've got an AMT 302, so I'd like it to mate up without a lot of modification ( don't mind doing some to the transmission tunnel. Trevor What are you building? That may yield a clue as to what sort of kit to raid for a suitable automatic transmission ;). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
porschercr Posted May 12, 2020 Author Share Posted May 12, 2020 (edited) 8 minutes ago, gman said: What are you building? That may yield a clue as to what sort of kit to raid for a suitable automatic transmission ;). It's a kitbash '67 Shelby GT 350, that I want to put in a 302 and want the automatic in it. Already have the 302 from another kit. Yep, it'll be different. Edited May 12, 2020 by porschercr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gman Posted May 12, 2020 Share Posted May 12, 2020 So late 60's Fords will be candidates. I believe the automatic in the Fairlane kits represents a Sportshift Cruise-o-matic (C6) transmission. The one in the Revell Thunderbolt is likely a Lincoln automatic that was hung behind the big block 427. http://www.compresins.com/site/751597/product/CRC-160 ^^ if an aftermarket resin piece interests you, may be cheaper than coming up with a kit with a suitable transmission to pilfer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gtx6970 Posted May 12, 2020 Share Posted May 12, 2020 I have a few of the automatics from the revell thunderbolt. Yours for the asking if you need them But i dont think they are a C4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plowboy Posted May 12, 2020 Share Posted May 12, 2020 The Revell '32 Fords have a SBF with an automatic. The trans pan has Metric in raised letters on it. Just have to sand those away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deuces ll Posted May 12, 2020 Share Posted May 12, 2020 Yeah, what he^^^^^said.... ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
64Comet404 Posted May 12, 2020 Share Posted May 12, 2020 The AMT Surf Woody has a 289 and automatic, think it is a C4 but not 100% certain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plowboy Posted May 12, 2020 Share Posted May 12, 2020 The AMT Ford vans have a SBF with an automatic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
porschercr Posted May 12, 2020 Author Share Posted May 12, 2020 8 hours ago, gman said: So late 60's Fords will be candidates. I believe the automatic in the Fairlane kits represents a Sportshift Cruise-o-matic (C6) transmission. The one in the Revell Thunderbolt is likely a Lincoln automatic that was hung behind the big block 427. http://www.compresins.com/site/751597/product/CRC-160 ^^ if an aftermarket resin piece interests you, may be cheaper than coming up with a kit with a suitable transmission to pilfer Thanks, I've got one. 6 hours ago, gtx6970 said: I have a few of the automatics from the revell thunderbolt. Yours for the asking if you need them But i dont think they are a C4 Thank you, I have a C4 and one from the Thunderbolt. Just need to see which will fit better. ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Posted May 12, 2020 Share Posted May 12, 2020 The Thunderbolt transmission likely won't fit. Don't use it anyway; it's a Lincoln transmission. A fair number of them got swapped out for manual transmissions in 1:1 Thunderbolts... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1972coronet Posted May 12, 2020 Share Posted May 12, 2020 The Lincoln automatic would be an "MX" trans ( Merc-O-Matic ) ; the "FMX" came along in 1968 , IIRC . C4 = 1964 C6 = 1966 The trans marked as "Metric" is an AOD . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Force Posted May 12, 2020 Share Posted May 12, 2020 (edited) 13 hours ago, Bucky said: I may be wrong, but I think the C4 went on small block engines, and the C6 went on big block engines. There was also an FMX transmission, I believe, that might have been a two speed automatic. The C6 was made to fit both the 300 I6, 289-351 small block and 351C, the FE and the 335 family 351M-400 and 385 family 429-460, all have different bolt patterns. The C4 was also found behind the FE and the 351M. A little confusing but as I said, all these engines has different bolt patterns and you can't take a transmission from a FE and put it on a small block or 385 family engine and vice versa as the bell housing on the transmissions are different. Edited May 12, 2020 by Force Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Brian Posted May 13, 2020 Share Posted May 13, 2020 Is your build going to be period correct or a modified current day version? For a current day build the Revell motor from one of the 32 Ford kits is the way to go there are a bunch of intake options and a good automatic with overdrive. For a vintage build I would go with the 70s AMT Ford van transmission, it's a c6 with the correct small block Ford bellhousing. The Starsky & Hutch Torino is another option for small block automatic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
porschercr Posted May 13, 2020 Author Share Posted May 13, 2020 Brian, Current day (Pro Touring theme.) Still in the planning stages, I'll look at the Revell 32 Ford kits. Trevor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Young Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 I searched for a C4 for a while and couldn't find anything. The closest things are the bellhousing from the Starsky & Hutch Torino, and the C3 in the AMT Pinto's. I took the C3 and made the center body longer, but had to make the rest from scratch. I have resin copies that are experiments(read; not perfect in any way), but could be made useable. The trans ended up a little on the long side, closer to 1/24 scale, but compared to the varieties of lengths I see for any given trans that are supposed to be the same, it looks fine in a 1/25 application. I haven't made a pan yet. You can see my pile of resin failures. My next project is a vacuum chamber. lol! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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NOBLNG Posted May 18, 2020 Share Posted May 18, 2020 Cool! I am wanting to build a vacuum chamber also. Any plans on what to use for a vacuum unit? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Young Posted May 18, 2020 Share Posted May 18, 2020 I saw a cheap vacuum pump at Harbor Freight I'm going to try. Usually they're pretty expensive, the HF one was like $36. They also sell a line of sealed cases like the Pelican cases. I want to check those out and see if I could cut the top and attach a piece of thick plexiglass. The sealed cases usually have a vent port, so that would be a good place to attach the vacuum line. Might be able to get the whole thing done for cheap. It will depend how well the case could hold up to the vacuum pressure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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