Very Cool Viper Renderings...

[JollySipper]

How the Dodge Viper could have been if it was mid-engine!

https://www.motor1.com/news/355265/mid-engine-dodge-viper-rendered/

Thought you guys would enjoy these.......

 

Edited May 30, 2020 by JollySipper

[DrKerry]

Kool!!

[Ace-Garageguy]

Nice work, but the problem with the way the car is rendered here is that the engine is over the rear axle centerline.

That means the gearbox and/or diff would need to be under it, placing the engine kinda high in the chassis...not the best for handling.

The proportions of the car as rendered could be maintained by using a sidewinder layout ala Lambo Miura, and the high center of gravity problem could be eliminated.

Another solution would be to mount the gearbox forward of the engine, like the Countach does, and run a driveshaft back to a diff behind the engine. Kinda lots of complication, and the rear axle centerline would need to be moved rearward.

Or...the greenhouse could be moved forward a bit, and the rear axle centerline moved back, with a rear transaxle, which is the way the Corvette C8 manages to get everything in.

I wonder what the designers had in mind.

 

Edited May 31, 2020 by Ace-Garageguy

[JollySipper]

It looks like the clutch is facing the front of the car.... a Countach style gearbox would work in that instance? What would it take to make an AWD set-up with the mid/rear engine layout?

[Draggon]

I think it looks better than the Corvette. The red pic that Bill posted is excellent.

 

[gotnitro?]

The red photo definitely looks better than the yellow..the roof is lower windshield lays back more . The designers certainly missed opportunity building the rear engine Viper now sadly the king of Snakes is gone 

[Matt Bacon]

Not quite sure why it still needs such a long hood; looks like they haven’t spent much time looking at actual rear mid engined cars...

best,

M.

[Ace-Garageguy]

On 6/1/2020 at 11:12 AM, Matt Bacon said:

... looks like they haven’t spent much time looking at actual...cars...

...or have a clue how one works.

 

[DonW]

50 minutes ago, Ace-Garageguy said:

...or have a clue how one works.

 

I think these cars have little diesel hybrid engines in the front and they're carrying some big Dodge engines somewhere  Don't know how it all got started, don't know what they do with their lives... (thanks, Bob,).

[DonW]

And don't get me started on the wheels! In the real world, shallow sidewalls and thin spokes lead to discomfort and disaster.

Edited June 5, 2020 by DonW

[misterNNL]

Everyone to their own opinion here and I for one think the original red drawing looks like a character from the Cars movie. Very cartoonish.

[JollySipper]

6 hours ago, Ace-Garageguy said:

...or have a clue how one works.

 

I'm not completely ignorant when it comes to cars, it's just been a while since I've worked on any Lambos.......

[Ace-Garageguy]

1 hour ago, JollySipper said:

I'm not completely ignorant when it comes to cars, it's just been a while since I've worked on any Lambos.......

Just to be clear, my comment wasn't directed at you.

But anybody doing renderings of "awesome" stuff that "should have been built"...well, if I was paying the guy, I'd expect him to realize you can't arbitrarily place the engine directly over the drive-axle center-line unless you use a setup like the old Toronado...which makes for a very tall package, not at all appropriate for a high-horsepower supercar.

 

 

The Lambo Countach places the gearbox forward of the engine, and runs a driveshaft next to the crank back to a diff at the rear of the engine. Complicated, but it gets the engine much lower. And as you see, the engine is not centered over the drive-axle

 

Edited June 6, 2020 by Ace-Garageguy