Brianl Posted June 20, 2020 Posted June 20, 2020 Came across these on the web and they fascinated me so I had to have a go at building one. I'm not modelling a particular car or am I trying for super accurate detail, I just want to have something representative of the type. Pretty well all scratch build so far. I have the front and rear suspensions sorted now and just trying to work out the side panel and nerf bars. Great thing to model and something unique for the cabinet. Happy to hear from anyone who has seen these things run. They must sound awesome. Brian
Dave Van Posted June 20, 2020 Posted June 20, 2020 Nice craftsmanship! Always thought of these cars as 'Redneck Formula one'! They are cool!
Chris Smith Posted June 20, 2020 Posted June 20, 2020 Very cool subject, your off to a great start! If I remember they are very popular in the New York and eastern part of the country.
OldNYJim Posted June 21, 2020 Posted June 21, 2020 What a great start! Outstanding scratchbuilding! Did you make the nose piece too, or is that from a kit? Great start - I’ll be watching!
Brianl Posted June 21, 2020 Author Posted June 21, 2020 Thanks for the comments. The wheels and part of the nose were from an old indy car kit. Rear wing is a 1/20 open wheeler, I have forgotten which one sorry. Part of the cage and carby's are sprint car items. I'm building it in two halves, the forward body shell, engine and front suspension and the back half hanging of the frame work. It was the only way I figure how to paint it andget the diver in! That rear end still needs a lot of cleaning up to look right and the wing won't sit straight. I'm working on it..... Brian
bamadon Posted June 23, 2020 Posted June 23, 2020 Ancient history now, but I used to watch the supermodifieds race at Oswego Speedway in upstate NY back in the 60's and 70's. Saw the rivalry between Jim Shampine and Nolan Swift and the transition to the offset engine. All big blocks and with the covered grandstand your ears would ring for a long time after the race. Good times.Sorry, didn't mean to ramble on. Don
iBorg Posted June 23, 2020 Posted June 23, 2020 I saw this at Indianapolis Raceway Park.....humid night. These amazing cars left vapor trails. May have been the best night of racing I've ever enjoyed.
DrKerry Posted June 28, 2020 Posted June 28, 2020 Very kool! I built one a few years ago using Sprint car chassis’s the worked. Be interesting to watch yours come together!! Not to hi jack your thread but give ya a big of inspiration if ya can use it!
Brianl Posted June 28, 2020 Author Posted June 28, 2020 Don and Mike. I figured these cars would make an impression and I seem to be right. Doc, No need to apologise. Most of my stuff is left field and I often hope it stir ideas or see other peoples efforts on similar subjects. I'm afraid I can't match your great detail but it's still a fun build. Thanks for sharing. Currently having my usual change of mind on colour where I always go back to what I first started with... Brian
sflam123 Posted June 29, 2020 Posted June 29, 2020 Supermodifieds (or supers) are VERY regional, limited to about 3 areas, Northern NY (Oswego area) and the NE, Northern Ohio (Toledo to Cleveland-primarily Lorain, OH area) and the NW (Primarily Idaho, Northern Utah, Eastern Wash. and Easter Oregon) and each area 's supers are unique to their area. Oswego and the NE are considered the most active and competitive. Many consider the Oswego supers to be the natural evolution of the Indy roadster. There is a 200 lap race run annually at Oswego that is considered the Indy 500 of supermodified racing and most of the cars run big block engines, many up to (I believe) 500 CI. Spooky fast!! You are off to a great start and I look forward to seeing how you progress.
Brianl Posted July 4, 2020 Author Posted July 4, 2020 90% there! Suspension is almost finished and mounting the side panel is next then a lot of little detail cleanup. Brian
slusher Posted July 6, 2020 Posted July 6, 2020 Very nice work so far! Going to be a fantastic build!
Lizard Racing Posted July 7, 2020 Posted July 7, 2020 I have always liked the offset supers because they are so bizarre. Outstanding scratch building. You seem to have thoroughally thought out the car with the detailed plans.
alan barton Posted July 7, 2020 Posted July 7, 2020 This is an outstanding build. I have often thought of building one and this gives me an encyclopaedia of ideas. I particularly like the ones with a huge sprint car style wing and an upswept rear deck but I can use a lot of your ideas. Way too may projects on the bench right now but I will be coming back to this one when the time is right! Cheers Alan
Brianl Posted July 8, 2020 Author Posted July 8, 2020 Thanks for the kind words gentlemen. Car is now finished and in the Under Glass section. Looking at it the only thing I would change would be to go back to the beam axle originally intended but I couldn't work out how to do the links so they would be strong enough. Otherwise pretty happy with it. There seems to be a lot of options for the suspension on these things. I often use the graph paper base for scratch builds and framed models like hot rods. It keeps everything straight (sort of!) and I can make notes so I don't forget any ideas I have when I'm not actually working on it. Brian
Gary Davis Posted July 14, 2020 Posted July 14, 2020 On 6/20/2020 at 5:56 AM, Dave Van said: Nice craftsmanship! Always thought of these cars as 'Redneck Formula one'! They are cool! Dave....there is nothing about these cars that leads to being of a REDNECK origin. Although some of these are built in a 2 car garage...most of the teams today have pretty big shops. These bad boys are nothing short of a Dragster that's set up to turn left. If a person thinks it takes LARGE Cahones to Drive a dragster(which it does!!!)...strap yourself into one of these. The Cahone size just jump from softball size to bowling ball size. I've crewed on a Super back in the late 60's. They where fast then but nothing compared to today. Brian...you've done and outstanding job on this build. Makes me want to jump in and build one for sure...
Dave Van Posted July 15, 2020 Posted July 15, 2020 49 minutes ago, Gary Davis said: Dave....there is nothing about these cars that leads to being of a REDNECK origin. Although some of these are built in a 2 car garage...most of the teams today have pretty big shops. These bad boys are nothing short of a Dragster that's set up to turn left. If a person thinks it takes LARGE Cahones to Drive a dragster(which it does!!!)...strap yourself into one of these. The Cahone size just jump from softball size to bowling ball size. I've crewed on a Super back in the late 60's. They where fast then but nothing compared to today. Brian...you've done and outstanding job on this build. Makes me want to jump in and build one for sure... That was not derogatory.....but a compliment!! I was a F1 fan. Now the F1 cars are getting DNF's for software errors!!! Really??? These Supermods are real cars......I know for a fact none get a DNF because the sensor software for wheel camber fails!!! Not the last time I saw them. They have the 1970's F1 spirit of innovation and old world craftsmanship. Maybe as I am a backwoods guy living in the most rural area east US I see hillbilly and redneck as better than the rest of the world today....but thats me. thx
Brianl Posted July 15, 2020 Author Posted July 15, 2020 8 hours ago, Dave Van said: That was not derogatory.....but a compliment!! I was a F1 fan. Now the F1 cars are getting DNF's for software errors!!! Really??? These Supermods are real cars......I know for a fact none get a DNF because the sensor software for wheel camber fails!!! Not the last time I saw them. They have the 1970's F1 spirit of innovation and old world craftsmanship. Maybe as I am a backwoods guy living in the most rural area east US I see hillbilly and redneck as better than the rest of the world today....but thats me. thx Agreed. Both of you!! These cars caught my eye because they are real cars. Made by very smart guys working to regs that allow individuality. Until I came across these cars I thought the only areas left were at Bonneville, Time Attack and the European hillclimb cars. I mean we must be talking close to 1000hp per tonne! Biggest downer for me are regs that push cars to one make status and this where F1, our Supercars and maybe Nascar have ended up. One make series usually mean the Team with the most money wins (Mercedes?). They also make boring models. And Dave... Where I learnt to drive. a good road was one you could see over the grass on. Wallabies and 'roos weren't too bad but wombats did real damage!! Best part of posting this build has been the feedback, which I asked for! So thanks Brian
Gary Davis Posted July 15, 2020 Posted July 15, 2020 (edited) 18 hours ago, Dave Van said: That was not derogatory.....but a compliment!! I was a F1 fan. Now the F1 cars are getting DNF's for software errors!!! Really??? These Supermods are real cars......I know for a fact none get a DNF because the sensor software for wheel camber fails!!! Not the last time I saw them. They have the 1970's F1 spirit of innovation and old world craftsmanship. Maybe as I am a backwoods guy living in the most rural area east US I see hillbilly and redneck as better than the rest of the world today....but thats me. thx Man Dave....I hear you on the silly Computer hardware and all that sensor stuff!!! I used to really like F1 also. I also liked Nascar..But...not any more. My cousin is still on the TRUEX team. When they won the Championship a few yrs back...I called Todd and congratulated him and also said I was pretty much done with all the silly changes that was being made in NASCAR. He didn't blame me. LOL The SUPER MODIFIED'S along with the 60's-70' and early 80's modifieds are way cool too. Edited July 15, 2020 by Gary Davis
Justin Porter Posted July 15, 2020 Posted July 15, 2020 The fantastic thing about supers is their level of mechanical sophistication only improves year to year. Just this past weekend, Aric Iosue debuted his all-new Colloca chassis at Oswego.
Dave Van Posted July 15, 2020 Posted July 15, 2020 19 minutes ago, Justin Porter said: The fantastic thing about supers is their level of mechanical sophistication only improves year to year. Just this past weekend, Aric Iosue debuted his all-new Colloca chassis at Oswego. Looks old school F1 to me!!!! Cool car!!
Brianl Posted July 15, 2020 Author Posted July 15, 2020 That is an awesome car. beautiful workmanship. Thanks for posting the photo. Brian
Vince66 Posted July 16, 2020 Posted July 16, 2020 (edited) Out here in the Western Washington these bad boys ran at Evergreen Speedway in Monroe Washington on the big 5/8ths mile. Very loud cars wickedly fast. Compare it to a bullet on steroids. 1 to 1.5 HP per pound got a chance to drive one. My late model was fast but the SM was insane. You could feel the seat plant from turn to turn. Felt like a kid in the candy store everytime I squeezed that pedal. Had a smile from ear to ear for over a month. Great looking model and yes each car is truly unique to its owner(s). Edited July 16, 2020 by Vince66
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