Atlantis Models has bought another lot of tooling/molds.....

[Ace-Garageguy]

14 minutes ago, Dennis Lacy said:

That is the same Chevy parts pack that was part of a group of 4 engine packs Revell issued in the 90’s. The other 3 were the FE Ford, Cadillac and Pontiac. So these 4 engines survived as stand alone.

Having bought those by the case a decade or so back, when nobody really wanted them and they were unbelievably cheap, and having originals to compare, one thing that's apparent on the '90s issues is that many of them border on being "short-shotted", with pretty bad sink marks in places where they're the absolute devil to correct.

Looks like the top of the Potvin intake manifold on the chrome Atlantis Chevy tree above still has a nasty divot at the forward end of the fins.

Edited March 18, 2023 by Ace-Garageguy
TYPO

[stavanzer]

Yep, Ace, I see the Divot. Ugh.

[John M.]

I read Atlantis's Facebook page and the company says the tooling for the 1957 Chevy Nomad is undergoing repairs. The kit was listed in the company's previous catalog so I'm speculating  Atlantis found hidden problems with the tooling before the kit was to go into production. Nothing was said on when the repairs will be completed.

Edited March 20, 2023 by John M.

[espo]

22 hours ago, John M. said:

I read Atlantis's Facebook page and the company says the tooling for the 1957 Chevy Nomad is undergoing repairs. The kit was listed in the company's previous catalog so I'm speculating  Atlantis found hidden problems with the tooling before the kit was to go into production. Nothing was said on when the repairs will be completed.

Would love to have a '57 Nomad wagon as long as they can get the shape of the roof corrected as well as the hood and grill.  Revell never seemed to be able to fix the shape of the roof. 

[niteowl7710]

1 hour ago, espo said:

Would love to have a '57 Nomad wagon as long as they can get the shape of the roof corrected as well as the hood and grill.  Revell never seemed to be able to fix the shape of the roof. 

You're talking about making new parts, and a whole new body tool at that point. It's not financially practical to try to reshape things, particularly if they need to be made smaller because of the difficulty of adding material back into a piece of tooling. You're talking about a bunch of welding and grinding on something from 1969. 

I suppose it's possible, but that would be a significantly different type of investment than what they've done to the old tooling in the past.

[Mr. Metallic]

On 3/18/2023 at 11:13 AM, stavanzer said:

 

Edit: Looks like Atlantis has cloned the Revell Parts Pack Small Block Chevy. SElling it Chromed even.

https://atlantis-models.com/custom-car-parts-series-1957-chevy-283-engine-chromed-1/25-scale-atlantis/

 

 

On 3/18/2023 at 2:13 PM, Dennis Lacy said:

That is the same Chevy parts pack that was part of a group of 4 engine packs Revell issued in the 90’s. The other 3 were the FE Ford, Cadillac and Pontiac. So these 4 engines survived as stand alone.

 

 

There were 2 different SBC parts pack engines produced by Revell. One of which was integrated into the 57 Chevy tool according to many knowledgeable people. The one on the left is the one that was reissued in the late 90's

[stavanzer]

So the Corvette Stingray engine is the one in the '57 Chevy?

Cool! Good to Know.

[Casey]

1/25 (ex)Revell Ford "Melted Brick" Flareside extended cab!!??? Who wanted this other than Chuck Most? ?

[Greg Myers]

On 3/20/2023 at 1:21 PM, stavanzer said:

So the Corvette Stingray engine is the one in the '57 Chevy?

Cool! Good to Know.

Looks like it

[OldNYJim]

2 hours ago, Casey said:

1/25 (ex)Revell Ford "Melted Brick" Flareside extended cab!!??? Who wanted this other than Chuck Most? ?

Wait, where did it say they were doing that one?

[garagepunk66]

On 3/9/2023 at 8:08 PM, CabDriver said:

Another bunch of releases announced this evening!

I'm very happy to finally see the "dogsled" style Parts Pack dragster frame being properly identified properly as a Kent Fuller chassis, and not a (Scotty Fenn) Chassis Research chassis. Tommy Ivo was a steady customer for Fuller from 1958 onward. Ivo's second, 1959 era, Chrysler powered, single engined car (the first Buick single engine car being sold to Prudhomme) is pictured below. This car is probably the most representative of the Parts Pack frame, though I would bet not many were built with the Ford buggy spring style front end. Fuller was an early proponent of the single VW torsion bar front suspension that would grace some of the most beautiful open wheel drag cars of the 1960's and 1970's. The absolute best donor kit to reach for pretty much all the chassis bits is the 22jr Model T bodied dragster in the Tony Nancy Double Dragster set, as that was a Fuller car built in 1963. Though you would have to scratch-build a torsion tube to mount to the front to accommodate the front end bits.    

Edited March 23, 2023 by garagepunk66
grammar, photo upload

[niteowl7710]

9 hours ago, CabDriver said:

Wait, where did it say they were doing that one?

Pretty sure it's just being used as part of the display for the model display case rather than an item they're releasing themselves.

[Reegs]

7 hours ago, garagepunk66 said:

I'm very happy to finally see the "dogsled" style Parts Pack dragster frame being properly identified properly as a Kent Fuller chassis, and not a (Scotty Fenn) Chassis Research chassis.

I always jump the gun. The Double Dragster frame is more along the lines of a Chassis Research frame. Mea culpa.

 

Edited March 23, 2023 by Reegs

[tim boyd]

On 3/11/2023 at 11:45 PM, CabDriver said:

I’m curious Tim - what makes it so good?

Jim....sorry for the delay in responding.  Below I have copied the entire text from my 2020 book "Collecting Drag Racing Modell Kits" (still available from CarTech books and Amazon, by the way) explaining my take on this kit series....best...TIM 

************************

Monogram’s Rear Engine Dragster Series:

When a model car kit is lessor known among collectors, that may have been the case because it was not a very good kit.  But in a some instances, the lessor known kit was actually an excellent product that was overlooked by model builders when it was new, and then never reissued following its initial production run.

                Simply put, in 1973 Monogram unveiled two of the best rear engine dragster kits ever.  And although I’m told that sold reasonably well, particularly in the discount store distribution channels, they seemed to be overlooked, ignored, and little known among adult drag racing enthusiasts. 

                Beyond the kit details described below, the coup-de-grace of these kits - never before attempted to this degree in a 1/24^th/1/25^th scale kit - was the flexible silver vinyl harnesses for spark plug ignition wiring, upper and lower fuel blocks (each with eight individual fuel lines running to the top hat and blower base/intake manifold engine wiring), main fuel and return lines and butterfly linkages running to the fuel pump and tank, and oil line plumbing along the lower left side of the engine block.  The original plan was for these harnesses were to be produced in a nylon material, but eventually a PVC-type material was chosen.  This new, thicker material didn’t flow properly through the molds, so the molds were modified to larger diameters.  This PVC material could have been a bit more flexible, and the wiring was now a bit out of scale, so completing the model with all the lines in place would have been a test of a modeler’s dexterity.  But wow!  It would be over two decades later until another kitmaker (in this case, Accurate Miniatures) attempted to provide kit wiring like this – and theirs was provided in a kit that sold at a very premium price vs. competing 1/24^th scale kits. 

                So just why are the kits below lesser known among scale drag racing enthusiasts?  I know of no single explanation some four plus decades later, but I can provide informed speculation as follows.  First, Monogram was just starting to emerge from the Mattel and Show Car model kits era, with a reputation for simple to assemble, toy-like kits still very front and center with serious hobbyists.  No one would have dreamed of a Monogram kit with this level of detail. 

                Second, as covered in the last chapter, their previous Prudhomme/McEwen front engine dragster kits were disappointing, curbside kits with no tubular chassis whatsoever.  Third, the real 1/1 scale Prudhomme/McEwen rail dragsters were very much a supporting act – the real attention was still on their ‘cuda and Duster funny cars.   Next, the one remaining magazine covering the model car hobby - that could have carried the great news about these kits – ceased publication just as the kits were introduced (and the new publisher that bought the remnants of the enterprise just did not understand the hobby and the effort quickly failed).  

                Then again, AMT and MPC had just introduced some pretty good rear engine dragster kits, and then Revell hit with their Drag Racing Team kits.   Most model builders, given a choice of essentially the same topic in either Monogram’s 1/24^th scale or the 1/25^th scale kits of the competition, gravitated toward the latter scale.   Monogram’s new kits were never reissued, probably in part because McEwen, and later Prudhomme, joined the Revell Drag Racing All Star Team with new kits of their cars, thereby ceasing Monogram’s ability to produce the kits with their headline drivers’ drawing power.  Never reissued, that is, until a 2011 release of the tool with a new driver/owner configuration and new box art.  (Update - and now due to the efforts of Peter Vetri and his Atlantis Models team - to break cover again later in 2023!) 

                Bottom line? If you’ve never purchased one of these two (now three (update again, soon to be four)) kits, search one out and grab it.  They were a benchmark at the time, in some ways remained unequalled today.  Even today they largely remain under the radar screen of the adult model car hobby.  You’ve been alerted; now you know what to do…

 

Monogram Don Prudhomme Hot Wheels Rear Engine Dragster (#7528)

Introduced: 1973.  Kit Collector Envy Factor: 4/5

…AND

Monogram Tom McEwen Hot Wheels Rear Engine Dragster (#7529)

Introduced: 1973.  Kit Collector Envy Factor: 4/5

                These two kits were identical other than the box art, instruction sheet, and decals.  They replicated every single visible part of a real rear engine dragster of the early 1970’s, even down to the two blower popoff valves at the front of the intake manifold.  The engines were reportedly molded in a scale that was 10% larger than the rest of the kit, to add to their visual impact. The one-piece tubular frame was enabled by a three- part tooling process, and was injection molded with temporary structural supports to prevent the warping found in many competing dragster kit frames.  On the plated parts trees were exceptionally delicate and in scale radius rods, tie rods, airfoil supports, and drag links.  The latest Centerline wheels were molded with ultra-fine concentric ribbing engraving.  High resolution decals with glossy finish and all car markings completed the kits.  The short-lived left and right-side canard wings behind the driver’s compartment were also included. 

Derivative Kit:

Revell Tom the Mongoose McEwen Rail Dragster (#85-4908)

Introduced: 2011.  Kit Collector Envy Factor: 3/5 

                The only reissue ever of Monogram’s rear engine fuel dragster tool was identical to the two previous kits, other than the new “Revell” branded box art and decals portraying the updated 1974 “English Leather” livery of McEwen’s digger, black (instead of silver) vinyl wiring, a matte (instead of glossy) finish on the plated parts tree, new and more correct aspect ratio drag slicks, and a completely redone, contemporary Revell-style instruction booklet.  

**********************************

OK guys, now you know why I said that.  And I presume you know what to do when the kit comes out, too (smile).  Best...TIM  

 

Edited March 23, 2023 by tim boyd

[Mr mopar]

4 hours ago, tim boyd said:

Jim....sorry for the delay in responding.  Below I have copied the entire text from my 2020 book "Collecting Drag Racing Modell Kits" (still available from CarTech books and Amazon, by the way) explaining my take on this kit series....best...TIM 

************************

Monogram’s Rear Engine Dragster Series:

When a model car kit is lessor known among collectors, that may have been the case because it was not a very good kit.  But in a some instances, the lessor known kit was actually an excellent product that was overlooked by model builders when it was new, and then never reissued following its initial production run.

                Simply put, in 1973 Monogram unveiled two of the best rear engine dragster kits ever.  And although I’m told that sold reasonably well, particularly in the discount store distribution channels, they seemed to be overlooked, ignored, and little known among adult drag racing enthusiasts. 

                Beyond the kit details described below, the coup-de-grace of these kits - never before attempted to this degree in a 1/24^th/1/25^th scale kit - was the flexible silver vinyl harnesses for spark plug ignition wiring, upper and lower fuel blocks (each with eight individual fuel lines running to the top hat and blower base/intake manifold engine wiring), main fuel and return lines and butterfly linkages running to the fuel pump and tank, and oil line plumbing along the lower left side of the engine block.  The original plan was for these harnesses were to be produced in a nylon material, but eventually a PVC-type material was chosen.  This new, thicker material didn’t flow properly through the molds, so the molds were modified to larger diameters.  This PVC material could have been a bit more flexible, and the wiring was now a bit out of scale, so completing the model with all the lines in place would have been a test of a modeler’s dexterity.  But wow!  It would be over two decades later until another kitmaker (in this case, Accurate Miniatures) attempted to provide kit wiring like this – and theirs was provided in a kit that sold at a very premium price vs. competing 1/24^th scale kits. 

                So just why are the kits below lesser known among scale drag racing enthusiasts?  I know of no single explanation some four plus decades later, but I can provide informed speculation as follows.  First, Monogram was just starting to emerge from the Mattel and Show Car model kits era, with a reputation for simple to assemble, toy-like kits still very front and center with serious hobbyists.  No one would have dreamed of a Monogram kit with this level of detail. 

                Second, as covered in the last chapter, their previous Prudhomme/McEwen front engine dragster kits were disappointing, curbside kits with no tubular chassis whatsoever.  Third, the real 1/1 scale Prudhomme/McEwen rail dragsters were very much a supporting act – the real attention was still on their ‘cuda and Duster funny cars.   Next, the one remaining magazine covering the model car hobby - that could have carried the great news about these kits – ceased publication just as the kits were introduced (and the new publisher that bought the remnants of the enterprise just did not understand the hobby and the effort quickly failed).  

                Then again, AMT and MPC had just introduced some pretty good rear engine dragster kits, and then Revell hit with their Drag Racing Team kits.   Most model builders, given a choice of essentially the same topic in either Monogram’s 1/24^th scale or the 1/25^th scale kits of the competition, gravitated toward the latter scale.   Monogram’s new kits were never reissued, probably in part because McEwen, and later Prudhomme, joined the Revell Drag Racing All Star Team with new kits of their cars, thereby ceasing Monogram’s ability to produce the kits with their headline drivers’ drawing power.  Never reissued, that is, until a 2011 release of the tool with a new driver/owner configuration and new box art.  (Update - and now due to the efforts of Peter Vetri and his Atlantis Models team - to break cover again later in 2023!) 

                Bottom line? If you’ve never purchased one of these two (now three (update again, soon to be four)) kits, search one out and grab it.  They were a benchmark at the time, in some ways remained unequalled today.  Even today they largely remain under the radar screen of the adult model car hobby.  You’ve been alerted; now you know what to do…

 

Monogram Don Prudhomme Hot Wheels Rear Engine Dragster (#7528)

Introduced: 1973.  Kit Collector Envy Factor: 4/5

…AND

Monogram Tom McEwen Hot Wheels Rear Engine Dragster (#7529)

Introduced: 1973.  Kit Collector Envy Factor: 4/5

                These two kits were identical other than the box art, instruction sheet, and decals.  They replicated every single visible part of a real rear engine dragster of the early 1970’s, even down to the two blower popoff valves at the front of the intake manifold.  The engines were reportedly molded in a scale that was 10% larger than the rest of the kit, to add to their visual impact. The one-piece tubular frame was enabled by a three- part tooling process, and was injection molded with temporary structural supports to prevent the warping found in many competing dragster kit frames.  On the plated parts trees were exceptionally delicate and in scale radius rods, tie rods, airfoil supports, and drag links.  The latest Centerline wheels were molded with ultra-fine concentric ribbing engraving.  High resolution decals with glossy finish and all car markings completed the kits.  The short-lived left and right-side canard wings behind the driver’s compartment were also included. 

Derivative Kit:

Revell Tom the Mongoose McEwen Rail Dragster (#85-4908)

Introduced: 2011.  Kit Collector Envy Factor: 3/5 

                The only reissue ever of Monogram’s rear engine fuel dragster tool was identical to the two previous kits, other than the new “Revell” branded box art and decals portraying the updated 1974 “English Leather” livery of McEwen’s digger, black (instead of silver) vinyl wiring, a matte (instead of glossy) finish on the plated parts tree, new and more correct aspect ratio drag slicks, and a completely redone, contemporary Revell-style instruction booklet.  

**********************************

OK guys, now you know why I said that.  And I presume you know what to do when the kit comes out, too (smile).  Best...TIM  

 

Thank you Tim ,I always like these kits ,when built they look the part so I'm in for three or four for sure !

[OldNYJim]

4 hours ago, tim boyd said:

Jim....sorry for the delay in responding.  Below I have copied the entire text from my 2020 book "Collecting Drag Racing Modell Kits" (still available from CarTech books and Amazon, by the way) explaining my take on this kit series....best...TIM 

************************

Monogram’s Rear Engine Dragster Series:

When a model car kit is lessor known among collectors, that may have been the case because it was not a very good kit.  But in a some instances, the lessor known kit was actually an excellent product that was overlooked by model builders when it was new, and then never reissued following its initial production run.

                Simply put, in 1973 Monogram unveiled two of the best rear engine dragster kits ever.  And although I’m told that sold reasonably well, particularly in the discount store distribution channels, they seemed to be overlooked, ignored, and little known among adult drag racing enthusiasts. 

                Beyond the kit details described below, the coup-de-grace of these kits - never before attempted to this degree in a 1/24^th/1/25^th scale kit - was the flexible silver vinyl harnesses for spark plug ignition wiring, upper and lower fuel blocks (each with eight individual fuel lines running to the top hat and blower base/intake manifold engine wiring), main fuel and return lines and butterfly linkages running to the fuel pump and tank, and oil line plumbing along the lower left side of the engine block.  The original plan was for these harnesses were to be produced in a nylon material, but eventually a PVC-type material was chosen.  This new, thicker material didn’t flow properly through the molds, so the molds were modified to larger diameters.  This PVC material could have been a bit more flexible, and the wiring was now a bit out of scale, so completing the model with all the lines in place would have been a test of a modeler’s dexterity.  But wow!  It would be over two decades later until another kitmaker (in this case, Accurate Miniatures) attempted to provide kit wiring like this – and theirs was provided in a kit that sold at a very premium price vs. competing 1/24^th scale kits. 

                So just why are the kits below lesser known among scale drag racing enthusiasts?  I know of no single explanation some four plus decades later, but I can provide informed speculation as follows.  First, Monogram was just starting to emerge from the Mattel and Show Car model kits era, with a reputation for simple to assemble, toy-like kits still very front and center with serious hobbyists.  No one would have dreamed of a Monogram kit with this level of detail. 

                Second, as covered in the last chapter, their previous Prudhomme/McEwen front engine dragster kits were disappointing, curbside kits with no tubular chassis whatsoever.  Third, the real 1/1 scale Prudhomme/McEwen rail dragsters were very much a supporting act – the real attention was still on their ‘cuda and Duster funny cars.   Next, the one remaining magazine covering the model car hobby - that could have carried the great news about these kits – ceased publication just as the kits were introduced (and the new publisher that bought the remnants of the enterprise just did not understand the hobby and the effort quickly failed).  

                Then again, AMT and MPC had just introduced some pretty good rear engine dragster kits, and then Revell hit with their Drag Racing Team kits.   Most model builders, given a choice of essentially the same topic in either Monogram’s 1/24^th scale or the 1/25^th scale kits of the competition, gravitated toward the latter scale.   Monogram’s new kits were never reissued, probably in part because McEwen, and later Prudhomme, joined the Revell Drag Racing All Star Team with new kits of their cars, thereby ceasing Monogram’s ability to produce the kits with their headline drivers’ drawing power.  Never reissued, that is, until a 2011 release of the tool with a new driver/owner configuration and new box art.  (Update - and now due to the efforts of Peter Vetri and his Atlantis Models team - to break cover again later in 2023!) 

                Bottom line? If you’ve never purchased one of these two (now three (update again, soon to be four)) kits, search one out and grab it.  They were a benchmark at the time, in some ways remained unequalled today.  Even today they largely remain under the radar screen of the adult model car hobby.  You’ve been alerted; now you know what to do…

 

Monogram Don Prudhomme Hot Wheels Rear Engine Dragster (#7528)

Introduced: 1973.  Kit Collector Envy Factor: 4/5

…AND

Monogram Tom McEwen Hot Wheels Rear Engine Dragster (#7529)

Introduced: 1973.  Kit Collector Envy Factor: 4/5

                These two kits were identical other than the box art, instruction sheet, and decals.  They replicated every single visible part of a real rear engine dragster of the early 1970’s, even down to the two blower popoff valves at the front of the intake manifold.  The engines were reportedly molded in a scale that was 10% larger than the rest of the kit, to add to their visual impact. The one-piece tubular frame was enabled by a three- part tooling process, and was injection molded with temporary structural supports to prevent the warping found in many competing dragster kit frames.  On the plated parts trees were exceptionally delicate and in scale radius rods, tie rods, airfoil supports, and drag links.  The latest Centerline wheels were molded with ultra-fine concentric ribbing engraving.  High resolution decals with glossy finish and all car markings completed the kits.  The short-lived left and right-side canard wings behind the driver’s compartment were also included. 

Derivative Kit:

Revell Tom the Mongoose McEwen Rail Dragster (#85-4908)

Introduced: 2011.  Kit Collector Envy Factor: 3/5 

                The only reissue ever of Monogram’s rear engine fuel dragster tool was identical to the two previous kits, other than the new “Revell” branded box art and decals portraying the updated 1974 “English Leather” livery of McEwen’s digger, black (instead of silver) vinyl wiring, a matte (instead of glossy) finish on the plated parts tree, new and more correct aspect ratio drag slicks, and a completely redone, contemporary Revell-style instruction booklet.  

**********************************

OK guys, now you know why I said that.  And I presume you know what to do when the kit comes out, too (smile).  Best...TIM  

 

Great insight, thank you Tim!  I figured there might be mention of it in your Drag Kits book...will pick that one up when I've finished the other two that I'm reading right now!

Appreciate you getting back and sharing your thoughts!  Sounds like I'll need a couplathreeorfour of these too!

[Casey]

On 3/22/2023 at 4:13 PM, CabDriver said:

Wait, where did it say they were doing that one?

Pictured at the top left of the pic you shared one page back. 

[OldNYJim]

5 minutes ago, Casey said:

Pictured at the top left of the pic you shared one page back. 

Duh!  Haha - thank you!  I kept rereading the list they posted and couldn’t figure out what I was missing ??

[John M.]

On 3/20/2023 at 12:33 PM, espo said:

Would love to have a '57 Nomad wagon as long as they can get the shape of the roof corrected as well as the hood and grill.  Revell never seemed to be able to fix the shape of the roof. 

Atlantis has been in putting lots of effort to fix the old Revell tooling since it bought it and the other tooling of Monogram, Renwal and Aurora from the current owners of Revell back in 2018 given their age. So far the result have been pretty good from what I know so hopefully they can do the same with the 57 Nomad tooling.

[Mark]

Atlantis isn't going to change the shape of the Nomad body, as that would necessitate tooling a new one.  They're just not going to do that, as their niche is bringing back older kits with minor improvements.

I'm betting they are working on minor alterations to the body tooling, to strengthen certain areas like the rear roof pillars, so the kit can be packed without anything breaking.  Many of the Revell opening-doors Nomad kits I have run across over the years, even just-opened kits, have had broken rear roof pillars and warped bodies.

[garagepunk66]

On 3/23/2023 at 6:43 AM, Reegs said:

I always jump the gun. The Double Dragster frame is more along the lines of a Chassis Research frame. Mea culpa.

 

The DD frame seems to be somewhat of a composite between the Fuller and Fenn designs. The x-brace behind the driver and the more upright angle of the "dogsled" hoops are pure Fuller, but the main frame rails made from one large diameter tube and much smaller diameter trusswork is Chassis Research style all the way. The dogsled tubes are considerably more laid down on the Chassis Research cars (causing lots of future NHRA safety concerns), and the back brace tubing was configured unusually as well. I'm not certain that an accurate Chassis TE-440 or TE-448 has ever been produced in scale. Picture of a 1960 TE-448 for comparison 

 

Edited March 26, 2023 by garagepunk66

[garagepunk66]

... and a Chassis Research TE-440 with the "pillion" front end (basically a hollow steel tube filled with "rubber doughnuts", rumored to be radiator support bushings for GM X-frame cars). The NHRA took a dim view to this feature, as they felt it was too close, functionally speaking, to a solidly mounted front axle. This is very much like a real one that I owned as a roller in the early 90's, but that one had been updated to a Ford style buggy spring per NHRA mandate   

Edited March 26, 2023 by garagepunk66

[Reegs]

Criminey! The brain in my head hurts!. I admit that sort of frame was before my time, so whatever knowledge I have of them is second hand.

I have one or two of those Revell frames buried away in the basement. Think I paid a quarter apiece for them back in the day when the local hobby shop (Nassau Hobby in Freeport, i.e. Ralph's) was clearing stuff out

Buying the kit? Depends on the engine options (if any) and what equipment pack come with it. 

Edited March 27, 2023 by Reegs

[stavanzer]

On 3/27/2023 at 4:45 AM, Reegs said:

Buying the kit? Depends on the engine options (if any) and what equipment pack come with it. 

This ^^^

He has gotten the right of it for many buyers.

[OldNYJim]

Preview of the T-bucket kit from Cultman TV