vamach1 Posted July 13, 2023 Share Posted July 13, 2023 1 minute ago, Chuck Kourouklis said: Bond car's a Mach 1 429CJ, right? Yes with a C6 auto. As this article mentions, many cars were used including non 429 cars for the alleyway blooper stunt. http://www.ponysite.de/pony/bond_ind.htm 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vamach1 Posted July 13, 2023 Share Posted July 13, 2023 8 minutes ago, Rob Hall said: I believe so..the descriptions I've read of the Bond kit says 429... it was unusual in that it was a stripe delete car..hopefully, Revell will provide Mach 1 striping in the kit (or maybe save those for another release down the line). The hockey stick stripes were optional so not having them was not unusual. Ford probably wanted the Boss 351 (all had the stripes) to stand out from a Mach1. Most of the early ads for the 71 Mach1 do not show the stripes. Magnum 500’s were not typical either as the stock wheels were 14 inches. As for the decals for the stripes - they are different on the trunk on the Boss vs. the Mach1 but the side stripes are the same. Rear gas cap is different also (Boss vs. Mach1). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Kourouklis Posted July 13, 2023 Share Posted July 13, 2023 11 minutes ago, vamach1 said: Yes with a C6 auto. As this article mentions, many cars were used including non 429 cars for the alleyway blooper stunt. http://www.ponysite.de/pony/bond_ind.htm I was speaking more to accounting for the second radiator shroud in the Revell kit - but that's some nice reference. ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tim boyd Posted July 14, 2023 Share Posted July 14, 2023 17 hours ago, 64Comet404 said: What be this "look at the instructions a second time" of which you speak? ? No hidden meaning...but for instance, when I went to locate the front grille panel to the body, it didn't seem to fit right. So I looked at the instruction sheet again, and it showed where the part fit into a slot in the body structure. Sure enough, it went in exactly and fit perfectly. Point being, in the past we were often quick to modify a part when it didn't fit quite correctly, but in this case, if the part is not fitting right, it is because we (I in this case) didn't fully read the instructions - not because the part did not fit. Not sure if any of this makes any sense...but....hopefully it does a bit. Best...TIM 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tim boyd Posted July 14, 2023 Share Posted July 14, 2023 14 hours ago, vamach1 said: The hockey stick stripes were optional so not having them was not unusual. Ford probably wanted the Boss 351 (all had the stripes) to stand out from a Mach1. Most of the early ads for the 71 Mach1 do not show the stripes. Magnum 500’s were not typical either as the stock wheels were 14 inches. As for the decals for the stripes - they are different on the trunk on the Boss vs. the Mach1 but the side stripes are the same. Rear gas cap is different also (Boss vs. Mach1). Hood stripes and blackout is also different between the Boss 302 and the Mach 1....TB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tim boyd Posted July 14, 2023 Share Posted July 14, 2023 (edited) 23 hours ago, fairlane1320 said: The pictures of the parts trees don't match the actual trees, and there's an extra fan shroud. There is an extra fan shroud (for the 429 engined Mach 1 version to come), a set of different rectangular clear lens lamps, and a different fuel filler cap (apparently replicating the upcoming Mach 1 version). These parts are blacked out on the map of the parts trees provided in the instruction manual, with a note referencing that these blacked out areas are for parts are not used in the Boss 302 construction. TB Edited July 14, 2023 by tim boyd 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tim boyd Posted July 14, 2023 Share Posted July 14, 2023 On 6/29/2023 at 6:23 PM, tim boyd said: Beyond the 429 Mach 1 kit version to come, there are several extra parts in the Boss 351 kit, most notably a full competition style gas cap, and a set of fog lamp lenses that do not appear to me to be 1971 factory options (these parts are blacked out on the instruction sheet parts callout diagrams, with a note indicating that they are not used in constructing the subject kit). Could these be part of a third kit execution with a Trans-Am circuit racing theme? As always, time will tell....TB i(PS -btw, no insider info here). Update/correction....the competition type fuel cap i referenced above is actually for the Mach 1 kit to come. I was not previously aware that the 1/1 Mach 1 had a different ''competition" style gas than the Boss 302 as standard equipment. Still haven't figure out those clear lenses, though. TB . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vamach1 Posted July 14, 2023 Share Posted July 14, 2023 14 minutes ago, tim boyd said: Hood stripes and blackout is also different between the Boss 302 and the Mach 1....TB Only the ram air Mach1 had the blackout and hood twist locks. The 007 Mach1 appears to have been a C Code non-ram air car. The other possibility is the hood was swapped to match the non 429 stunt cars that did not have ram air. So this raises the question as to whether the Revell Mach1 kit will have the standard (non ram air air cleaner) or use the one in the Boss 351 kit. https://www.isomustangs.org/Registry/MostWanted/TabId/123/ArtMID/506/ArticleID/39/WANTED---1971-Mach-1-Used-In-Diamonds-are-Forever.aspx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atomicholiday Posted July 14, 2023 Share Posted July 14, 2023 6 hours ago, tim boyd said: No hidden meaning...but for instance, when I went to locate the front grille panel to the body, it didn't seem to fit right. So I looked at the instruction sheet again, and it showed where the part fit into a slot in the body structure. Sure enough, it went in exactly and fit perfectly. Point being, in the past we were often quick to modify a part when it didn't fit quite correctly, but in this case, if the part is not fitting right, it is because we (I in this case) didn't fully read the instructions - not because the part did not fit. Not sure if any of this makes any sense...but....hopefully it does a bit. Best...TIM I think HPI guy references this same feature in his YouTube build of the kit. And had the same conclusion as you Tim. Good info to have. Thanks.? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stinkybritches Posted July 14, 2023 Share Posted July 14, 2023 I received my order from Mega Hobby today. Everything looks to be cleanly molded, as expected considering the new tooling. I can't wait to get started on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Kourouklis Posted July 14, 2023 Share Posted July 14, 2023 8 days from order to shipped, via Carrera. IMMENSELY strong first impressions. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Kourouklis Posted July 15, 2023 Share Posted July 15, 2023 Btw, that distributor pass-through for the intake: it appears that's there in the model entirely to give the distributor a foothold. Pretty sure you can just trim that off. So you might want to make sure the top seam between block halves is filled and smoothed over, at least at the forward edge. The timing chain housing, integrated in the 1:1 block, is molded separately here, with a separate timing cover to put on that. A little drilling and pinning for the distributor shaft once the basic block and timing housing are together, and it seems to me the chief peccadillo with the engine should be solved. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calb56 Posted July 15, 2023 Share Posted July 15, 2023 http://www.hobbylinc.com/revell-monogram-1971-mustang-boss-351-plastic-model-car-kit-1:25-scale-4512 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luc Janssens Posted July 15, 2023 Share Posted July 15, 2023 22 hours ago, tim boyd said: Update/correction....the competition type fuel cap i referenced above is actually for the Mach 1 kit to come. I was not previously aware that the 1/1 Mach 1 had a different ''competition" style gas than the Boss 302 as standard equipment. Still haven't figure out those clear lenses, though. TB . Indicators for a '73? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tim boyd Posted July 15, 2023 Share Posted July 15, 2023 42 minutes ago, Luc Janssens said: Indicators for a '73? Luc....hmmm.....very interesting. Gotta check that one out! Best...TB 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Kourouklis Posted July 15, 2023 Share Posted July 15, 2023 On 4/11/2023 at 8:09 AM, vamach1 said: More cats out of the bag on the Revell facebook page. Check out the Eleanor hood and “correct” mix of the 71 bumper and turn signals and 73 grille JUST like the modified movie car. I’m guessing a 2024 release. Yup! I think you’re looking at ‘em right there. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vamach1 Posted July 15, 2023 Share Posted July 15, 2023 2 hours ago, Chuck Kourouklis said: Yup! I think you’re looking at ‘em right there. Oh heck yes. Of course an Olympic sprint edition would not be out of the question either since the standard hood is correct. Once the hood is available Keith marks makes the sprint decals if Revell does not include them. Great review of the kit in FSM. Not sure who Tim was referring to about the molded in ram air plenum but I completely understand the compromise. ? https://finescale.com/product-info/kit-reviews/2023/07/workbench-review-revell-125-scale-1971-ford-mustang-boss-351-plastic-model-kit Www.1972sprint.com https://public.fotki.com/mofobow/ford/mustang/72_mustang_sprint/ Lastly a shout out to Ed Sexton for him getting this model to finally get made after we got wind of it three years ago. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Kourouklis Posted July 15, 2023 Share Posted July 15, 2023 So, after washing it with all the acid I could in less than 24 hours of possession so far, you've pretty much seen already what issues I could come up with: the non-prototypical distributor base molded to the intake, pretty quick to grind off the intake ducting molded under the hood, with very little ghosting if mine is any indication a wee little bit of surface rippling right at the beltline-fender transition on the passenger-side C-pillar, as Tim observed in his review; it creates a crease so subtle the light has to hit it exactly right to expose it. You'll have to be delicate and strategic, but otherwise it shouldn't take anyone too long to file that out, if you even see it. I'm also catching a bit of routine parts warping - mostly in the floorpan/engine bay aprons working against an ideal fit into the body shell, that sort of thing - which is why God created hot water. That's. IT. Every other aspect of the kit is game-changing, delivering at or beyond what the preview pictures have shown; counting rivets will only deepen your appreciation for what Revell's accomplished this time. So if a Sportsroof '71 is your thing and you're impressed by those shots, get it. Mail ordering, buttering up your local plastic pusher, bribery with donuts or torches and pitchforks, whatever's necessary. Btw, interesting how greatness can be forecast by preview photos just as easily as mediocrity, huh? Mindful as I am lately about belaboring things, this brings us to a point that's been waiting a while to be made, and a grand sweeping tip of the hat to Revell for opening the door (I'm running out of these, I promise): We were on the 27th page before this kit went out wide, with few if any observations about "X pages and the kit hasn't even been released yet." And all those wicked hobby nabobs flocking to criticize a model indiscriminately, just out of some feverish bone-deep compulsion TO COMPLAIN ABOUT SOMETHING - suuuure. Where were they, again? I think these 28 pages have given the latest baldfaced, unimaginative LIE to that entire concept. I'm bookmarking the thing for nose-rubbing proof. This thread isn't a disaster because the kit isn't. Full stop. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vamach1 Posted July 15, 2023 Share Posted July 15, 2023 I’ve enjoyed this thread from day one and aside from some posts that have veered off topic, I think everyone has learned a lot about the real cars, how a kit should be made (or as close to perfect as possible) and how we should all be better for the efforts of some dedicated enthusiast in the business, experts in Ford history and muscle car enthusiasts that have all contributed to where we are are. While everyone may not be a fan of the subject matter, there was clearly still was a demand for kits of this body style and for decades we had to accept some minor tweaks to 50 year old molds. I have learned or been reminded of what I have forgot and every time I think everything is know about specific 77-73 Mustangs used in movies I end up using my judgement in some cases as rarely is there just one car used for cinema especially when cars get almost destroyed in the process. So I will enjoy this kit and the other variations to come. The wait has been and will be worth it. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monty Posted July 17, 2023 Share Posted July 17, 2023 On 7/15/2023 at 12:23 AM, Calb56 said: http://www.hobbylinc.com/revell-monogram-1971-mustang-boss-351-plastic-model-car-kit-1:25-scale-4512 My sincere thanks for this post. Looks like a great price and reasonable shipping. I've passed it on to some other builders I know who'd been looking forward to buying this kit. I'm sure any other similar posts with low prices etc would also be welcome here. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thatz4u Posted July 17, 2023 Share Posted July 17, 2023 this may help to inspire your builds https://www.lov2xlr8.no/brochures/ford/must7/must7.html 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vamach1 Posted July 17, 2023 Share Posted July 17, 2023 (edited) Screen shot from Facebook. Sorry I do not remember which page it was but I remember the builder said they finished the kit in three days. I hope to get started on one this week when they arrive. The reviews so far are very positive and I may opt to paint the argent (silver) on the hood (or semi-gloss black depending on the body color) and only use the pinstripe part of the decal. Enjoy the other photos. https://www.thelastdetail.com/1971-ford-mustang-boss-351-c-1229.htm https://www.cjponyparts.com/resources/boss-351 https://www.mustang.org.au/boss-registry/boss-351-mustang/ https://www.gaaclassiccars.com/vehicles/29332/1971-ford-mustang-boss-351 https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1971-ford-mustang-boss-351-7/ Edited July 17, 2023 by vamach1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Kourouklis Posted July 17, 2023 Share Posted July 17, 2023 Yeah, I think your hood treatment is the way to go, Rex. I'm also pondering a bit how tricky it might be to match silver paint to that inside border decal. Photocopying the black decal and trimming tight around that inside border should give you just the right template for a mask. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luc Janssens Posted July 17, 2023 Share Posted July 17, 2023 3 hours ago, vamach1 said: Screen shot from Facebook. Sorry I do not remember which page it was but I remember the builder said they finished the kit in three days. This builder is Jim Ashley (1) Facebook 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Hall Posted July 17, 2023 Share Posted July 17, 2023 Got mine today, haven't opened yet..will take some time to grok the contents tonight. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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