Dpate Posted July 21, 2022 Posted July 21, 2022 On 7/10/2022 at 8:52 PM, 1972coronet said: Here's an unboxing of the kit (see below). This dude must've lucked out -- different batch, maybe? Shame, shame, shame on the warpage that you folks are encountering. Na, i see some warpage here. 1
unclescott58 Posted July 21, 2022 Posted July 21, 2022 (edited) Okay, the more I test fit things, the worst this kit gets. I’m finding more and more warped parts as I go along. Most should not be a problem for the most part. But, a part couple need out right replacement. The hood (part #2) and ramp (part #420) there is no hope for. They for sure need to be replaced. I’m afraid to start doing any sub-assembly, in fear of what more I might find. I’m going to come right out and say it. This kit is the biggest piece of junk kit I’ve purchased in a long time. I have never been as impressed as others have with Moebius’ car or truck kits as others have been in the past. I have found them difficult to build in general. I really do like the subjects they’ve picked to model though. So I’ve purchased several over the years. But, again I’ve found them tough to build. With that in mind, and the warped parts in this kit, I’m not even going to go any farther with it. I’m going to have talk to seller (I bought it from a vendor on eBay), and see if I can send it back for a refund. It’s not the seller’s fault. And I also don’t blame Model King. I’ve bought many good kits released through them in the past. This falls flat into Moebius’ lap. The quality of this kit is inexcusable. This maybe the last Moebius kit I ever buy. Edited July 21, 2022 by unclescott58
Dpate Posted July 21, 2022 Posted July 21, 2022 1 hour ago, unclescott58 said: Okay, the more I test fit things, the worst this kit gets. I’m finding more and more warped parts as I go along. Most should not be a problem for the most part. But, a part couple need out right replacement. The hood (part #2) and ramp (part #420) there is no hope for. They for sure need to be placed. I’m afraid to start doing any sub-assembly, in fear of what more I might find. I’m going to come out and say it. This kit is the biggest piece of junk kit I’ve purchased in a long time. I have never been as impressed with Moebius car or truck kits as others have been in the past. I have found them difficult to build in general. I like the subjects they’ve picked to model. But, again I’ve found them tough to build. With the warped parts in this kit, I’m not even going to go any farther with it. I’m going to have talk to seller (I bought it from a vendor on eBay), and see if I can send it back for a refund. It’s not the seller’s fault. And I also don’t blame Model King. I’ve bought many good kits released through them in the past. This falls flat into Moebius’ lap. The quality of this kit is inexcusable. This maybe my last Moebius kit I ever buy. That really sucks man. I got mine off ebay too. I'm going to check everything again 100% on my kit tomorrow. If you do send it back and get your money AMT is re releasing there ramp truck kit sometime this month.
Luc Janssens Posted July 21, 2022 Posted July 21, 2022 (edited) Just wondering that if one assembles the wedge (using rubber bands etc) it straightens itself out, or not. Edited July 21, 2022 by Luc Janssens
unclescott58 Posted July 21, 2022 Posted July 21, 2022 6 hours ago, Dpate said: That really sucks man. I got mine off ebay too. I'm going to check everything again 100% on my kit tomorrow. If you do send it back and get your money AMT is re releasing there ramp truck kit sometime this month. I still have the last reissue of the AMT ramp track from a few years back. And of course I have several copies of MPC’s racer wedge. The design of Moeius’ kit is not the problem. I sure the molds are fine. It’s a quality control issue. It’s a shame.
unclescott58 Posted July 21, 2022 Posted July 21, 2022 (edited) 5 hours ago, Luc Janssens said: Just wondering that if one assembles the wedge (using rubber bands etc) it straightens itself out, or not. The hood and part main part of the ramp floor, part #420, will not straighten out on my example no matter how many “rubber bands,” or clamps, etc, one uses. The other warped parts might. But, I’m not going to start working on this, only to find other unresolvable issues later on. I hopefully can get my money back now, instead. Before I gotten to a point where that maybe impossible. This kit with shipping, cost me just under $50 U.S. Not a huge amount money. But, more than I’m willing to just throw away. Edited July 21, 2022 by unclescott58 2
stavanzer Posted July 21, 2022 Posted July 21, 2022 I hope somebody from Moebius is reading this. If not dealt with, this issue could be a showstopper for future sales. I know that I'll be buying the wheels/tires out of this kit as it get parted out, as that is all I want from this kit anyway. I'm holding out for the F-250 4x4, that is supposed to be next up. 1
Jack L Posted July 21, 2022 Posted July 21, 2022 Moebius emailed me they know ,they are waiting on a shipment of good parts its across the complete production run 1 2
wrenchr Posted July 21, 2022 Posted July 21, 2022 19 hours ago, unclescott58 said: Mine came in today’s mail. And I’m happy to report, at a quick glance of the parts in the kit, I’m finding nothing warped. ? You need to play the mega millions.
Dpate Posted July 21, 2022 Posted July 21, 2022 (edited) So I checked my kit fully again and I do have some warpage. Hood has it the worst (Just the right side), but I think if I tape it down to the body, and throw some heat on it it may settle down. Everything else in the kit is good though. Edited July 21, 2022 by Dpate
unclescott58 Posted July 21, 2022 Posted July 21, 2022 1 hour ago, wrenchr said: You need to play the mega millions. You did not read the follow up posts!
unclescott58 Posted July 21, 2022 Posted July 21, 2022 20 minutes ago, Dpate said: So I checked my kit fully again and I do have some warpage. Hood has it the worst (Just the right side), but I think if I tape it down to the body, and throw some heat on it it may settle down. Everything else in the kit is good though. It looks like your the lucky one. Congratulations.
unclescott58 Posted July 21, 2022 Posted July 21, 2022 (edited) 9 hours ago, unclescott58 said: The hood and part main part of the ramp floor, part #420, will not straighten out on my example no matter how many “rubber bands,” or clamps, etc, one uses. The other warped parts might. But, I’m not going to start working on this, only to find other unresolvable issues later on. I hopefully can get my money back now, instead. Before I gotten to a point where that maybe impossible. This kit with shipping, cost me just under $50 U.S. Not a huge amount money. But, more than I’m willing to just throw away. I’m a little confused. At first the seller was not going to take the kit back. Because they claimed I had “started building it.” But, they were willing to refund my shipping costs. I explained, I did not start building the kit. I only took parts out of their bags to check them out. And whether they willing to refund me or not, I was sending the kit back. They came back with a bigger refund. Though I’m confused on how much in the end? I think I’m out $10.00, but I’m not sure. They said, do not send the kit back in meantime. So I maybe $10 shy and stuck with a kit that I can not built. Too much hassle. But, I’ll live with it. I think this maybe my last purchase of a Moebius kit. The overall problems I’ve had, as will be seen soon with a ‘65 Comet I’m building, in the “Under Glass” car section, and with other kits. And now this. I don’t trust or like Moebius kits. Quality control is questionable. And not just on this kit. Some assembly steps don’t work well for me. And in general, they are for the most part not fun to build. I’m in this hobby, first because of my love of cars and trucks. And second for the fun of building. Moebius does not offer me what I’m looking for. Edited July 21, 2022 by unclescott58
OldNYJim Posted July 21, 2022 Posted July 21, 2022 2 hours ago, unclescott58 said: So I maybe $10 shy and stuck with a kit that I can not built. Too much hassle. But, I’ll live with it. I'll give ya ten bucks for it! ? 2
slusher Posted July 23, 2022 Posted July 23, 2022 On 7/21/2022 at 1:57 PM, unclescott58 said: I’m a little confused. At first the seller was not going to take the kit back. Because they claimed I had “started building it.” But, they were willing to refund my shipping costs. I explained, I did not start building the kit. I only took parts out of their bags to check them out. And whether they willing to refund me or not, I was sending the kit back. They came back with a bigger refund. Though I’m confused on how much in the end? I think I’m out $10.00, but I’m not sure. They said, do not send the kit back in meantime. So I maybe $10 shy and stuck with a kit that I can not built. Too much hassle. But, I’ll live with it. I think this maybe my last purchase of a Moebius kit. The overall problems I’ve had, as will be seen soon with a ‘65 Comet I’m building, in the “Under Glass” car section, and with other kits. And now this. I don’t trust or like Moebius kits. Quality control is questionable. And not just on this kit. Some assembly steps don’t work well for me. And in general, they are for the most part not fun to build. I’m in this hobby, first because of my love of cars and trucks. And second for the fun of building. Moebius does not offer me what I’m looking for. Scott, I feel for you man. You should contact Moebius, about it. I think they will take care of It. Without model builders they are out of business.. 1
unclescott58 Posted July 23, 2022 Posted July 23, 2022 5 hours ago, slusher said: Scott, I feel for you man. You should contact Moebius, about it. I think they will take care of It. Without model builders they are out of business.. Thank you for your kind words of encouragement. I still like the concept of this kit. And since the seller refused to take it back, I’m debating on contacting Moebius, seeing if I can get replacement parts and trying to build the kit. I’d still like to have a ramp truck like it in my collection. 1
Dpate Posted July 23, 2022 Posted July 23, 2022 2 hours ago, unclescott58 said: Thank you for your kind words of encouragement. I still like the concept of this kit. And since the seller refused to take it back, I’m debating on contacting Moebius, seeing if I can get replacement parts and trying to build the kit. I’d still like to have a ramp truck like it in my collection. I emailed them to see if I could get a replacement hood. Haven’t heard anything back yet, but someone here said there aware of all the issues and awaiting for new parts.
mikemodeler Posted July 23, 2022 Posted July 23, 2022 On 7/15/2022 at 9:39 PM, unclescott58 said: Despite the warping, quality control issues I’m seeing here, I put my order in for the Moebius ramp truck this afternoon. I’m hoping the one I get is okay. After reading and seeing what I’ve seen here, I’m a little bit worried it may not be. I have to ask.......Why did you order it knowing full well it had issues and then complain? And if the seller gave you essentially the kit for free, why complain? You could part it out and make some money, give it to someone who will try to build it as it is, or use it for parts. 4
Dpate Posted July 23, 2022 Posted July 23, 2022 Got a reply from them. Said there going to send me out a new hood.
RichCostello Posted July 23, 2022 Posted July 23, 2022 33 minutes ago, Dpate said: Got a reply from them. Said there going to send me out a new hood. They told me that they had cab and hood parts in stock, but they had to wait for the ramp parts to be sent to them before they could send them to me.
Daddyfink Posted July 23, 2022 Author Posted July 23, 2022 Just watched HPI build his and it made me open my kit and check it, and it actually looks pretty straight.
unclescott58 Posted July 24, 2022 Posted July 24, 2022 12 hours ago, mikemodeler said: I have to ask.......Why did you order it knowing full well it had issues and then complain? And if the seller gave you essentially the kit for free, why complain? You could part it out and make some money, give it to someone who will try to build it as it is, or use it for parts. I ordered one because not everybody was having troubles. Hoping, that maybe I too would get a good one. It was just bad luck that I did not. Had a little hassle with the vendor not willing to take it back. But, they did agree to refund most of my money in the end. So the problem is generally solved. But, does that mean I should not be unhappy? I still want build a ramp truck, if not Moebius’, one like it. I’ll be very happy if I can build the Moebius ramp truck, one way or another.
Luc Janssens Posted July 24, 2022 Posted July 24, 2022 2 hours ago, unclescott58 said: I ordered one because not everybody was having troubles. Hoping, that maybe I too would get a good one. It was just bad luck that I did not. Had a little hassle with the vendor not willing to take it back. But, they did agree to refund most of my money in the end. So the problem is generally solved. But, does that mean I should not be unhappy? I still want build a ramp truck, if not Moebius’, one like it. I’ll be very happy if I can build the Moebius ramp truck, one way or another. Order the replacement parts, then after you receive them, you'll be on your way. It's not like you won't have anything to build 'till then, do ya? Tongue in cheek Cheers Luc
TonyK Posted July 24, 2022 Posted July 24, 2022 I have enjoyed building Moebius kits in the past, so much that I've bought the same kit to build another version. Planned on buying this ramp truck but you guys have made my decision not to. Too bad that Moebius goofed up and I hope the ones who get a good kit enjoy your build. I look forward to seeing them when done.
Dpate Posted July 24, 2022 Posted July 24, 2022 21 minutes ago, TonyK said: I have enjoyed building Moebius kits in the past, so much that I've bought the same kit to build another version. Planned on buying this ramp truck but you guys have made my decision not to. Too bad that Moebius goofed up and I hope the ones who get a good kit enjoy your build. I look forward to seeing them when done. Yes I love moebius kits as well. Especially there trailer kits and big rigs. It sucks this happened, but they’ll get it sorted out. Even with the warpage it’s still better quality than what most put out lol.
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