stevez Posted July 18, 2022 Posted July 18, 2022 My cobra color clear lacquer has about run out. What's a good clear lacquer replacement that I can airbrush? Don't like spray cans or future or enamels. Thanks!
Zoom Zoom Posted July 18, 2022 Posted July 18, 2022 Tamiya LP-9 clear gloss lacquer is a new favorite (the entire line of colors is great, I like mixing colors from them like I used to do decades ago with Testors enamels). Mr. Hobby #46 solvent-based clear is excellent as well; it was my go-to clear before the LP line arrived. Both dry rapidly and polish beautifully. One reason I prefer these two clears is that they are friendly with most lacquer based paints including aftermarket colors and are plastic-friendly.
robertw Posted July 18, 2022 Posted July 18, 2022 My favorite is Tamiya TS-13. I know it's in a rattle can but I just decant it let it sit for a few hours for the propellent to gas off then put it through the airbrush , thinned or as is what ever works best. I always decant more then I need so seal up the bottle until I need it again. A few years back I bought a few dozen Badger bottles to store extra paint in. I decant by having a number of Tamiya spray nozzles with a short piece of flexi straw glued to them so the paint dribbles out rather then spraying out in a blast. I clean the new nozzle out by forcing a little lacquer thinner down the straw till it comes out clean from the base of the can nozzle. For clears I keep a few of my created nozzles for only clear paint to ensure no colour gets mixed in.
Mike 1017 Posted July 19, 2022 Posted July 19, 2022 19 hours ago, robertw said: My favorite is Tamiya TS-13. I know it's in a rattle can but I just decant it let it sit for a few hours for the propellent to gas off then put it through the airbrush , thinned or as is what ever works best. I always decant more then I need so seal up the bottle until I need it again. A few years back I bought a few dozen Badger bottles to store extra paint in. I decant by having a number of Tamiya spray nozzles with a short piece of flexi straw glued to them so the paint dribbles out rather then spraying out in a blast. I clean the new nozzle out by forcing a little lacquer thinner down the straw till it comes out clean from the base of the can nozzle. For clears I keep a few of my created nozzles for only clear paint to ensure no colour gets mixed in. I decant the paint into a small bottle and put it into a cup with about a half inch of hot water. Once it looks like the bubbles are gone, I screw the cap onto the bottle and shake it to make sure the bubbles are gone. It only takes about 5 minutes to gas out. Mike
stevez Posted July 19, 2022 Author Posted July 19, 2022 On 7/18/2022 at 1:36 PM, Zoom Zoom said: Tamiya LP-9 clear gloss lacquer is a new favorite (the entire line of colors is great, I like mixing colors from them like I used to do decades ago with Testors enamels). Mr. Hobby #46 solvent-based clear is excellent as well; it was my go-to clear before the LP line arrived. Both dry rapidly and polish beautifully. One reason I prefer these two clears is that they are friendly with most lacquer based paints including aftermarket colors and are plastic-friendly. Does the Tamiya LP paint smell like their spray can paint?
Zoom Zoom Posted July 19, 2022 Posted July 19, 2022 30 minutes ago, stevez said: Does the Tamiya LP paint smell like their spray can paint? I haven't compared directly but it seems different. I've painted/cleared several models recently with LP's, there's a link in my signature to see them in my Fotki albums.
stevez Posted July 19, 2022 Author Posted July 19, 2022 6 minutes ago, Zoom Zoom said: I haven't compared directly but it seems different. I've painted/cleared several models recently with LP's, there's a link in my signature to see them in my Fotki albums. Good, I can't take the Tamiya spray can odor even wearing a respirator.
stevez Posted July 19, 2022 Author Posted July 19, 2022 8 minutes ago, Zoom Zoom said: I haven't compared directly but it seems different. I've painted/cleared several models recently with LP's, there's a link in my signature to see them in my Fotki albums. How much thinner? Do you use Tamiya thinner retarder?
Zoom Zoom Posted July 19, 2022 Posted July 19, 2022 31 minutes ago, stevez said: How much thinner? Do you use Tamiya thinner retarder? It can vary, some say what's in a fresh jar doesn't seem full and they add thinner to make the jar seem more full. Read Tamiya's information: Tamiya Blog LP Paint compatibility A good video tutorial on YT that was linked from the Tamiya Blog: Video Tutorial I've thinned with Tamiya lacquer thinner and Mr. Hobby Mr. Color Thinner and Mr. Leveling Thinner (with retarder). Any lacquer hobby paint I've tried has a strong odor. I used to decant/airbrush TS paints but after it's thinned a bit to flow nicely through my setup it cures rather soft, especially TS-13 clear. The LP's cure completely and don't get sticky from handing, they polish out beautifully.
Ben Brown Posted July 20, 2022 Posted July 20, 2022 I use Mr Color clears, although I recently tried Tamiya’s LP semi gloss clear on an airplane. You can’t go wrong with either brand. Tamiya requires less thinner than Mr Color. I thin both with Mr Leveling Thinner. Ben 2
stevez Posted July 20, 2022 Author Posted July 20, 2022 18 hours ago, Zoom Zoom said: It can vary, some say what's in a fresh jar doesn't seem full and they add thinner to make the jar seem more full. Read Tamiya's information: Tamiya Blog LP Paint compatibility A good video tutorial on YT that was linked from the Tamiya Blog: Video Tutorial I've thinned with Tamiya lacquer thinner and Mr. Hobby Mr. Color Thinner and Mr. Leveling Thinner (with retarder). Any lacquer hobby paint I've tried has a strong odor. I used to decant/airbrush TS paints but after it's thinned a bit to flow nicely through my setup it cures rather soft, especially TS-13 clear. The LP's cure completely and don't get sticky from handing, they polish out beautifully. Thanks ??
stevez Posted July 20, 2022 Author Posted July 20, 2022 6 hours ago, Ben Brown said: I use Mr Color clears, although I recently tried Tamiya’s LP semi gloss clear on an airplane. You can’t go wrong with either brand. Tamiya requires less thinner than Mr Color. I thin both with Mr Leveling Thinner. Ben MLT seems the way to go. thanks ? 1
papajohn97 Posted July 21, 2022 Posted July 21, 2022 My favorite clear coat on car models for years was Tamiya TS-13 gloss lacquer but I never had much luck spraying it over decals (the solvents in the lacquer can sometimes attack decals when a heavy “wet coat” is applied). I switched over to Mr. Color “UV Cut GX” (GX113) clear lacquer thinned with Mr. Color self-leveling thinner, airbrushed. It seems to work as well as TS-13 without any decal damage, even when a heavy wet coat is applied. I haven’t tried polishing it wet so I don’t know if it will polish up as well as other lacquers or acrylic clear coats. The “2k” two-part urethane clear coats look fantastic and are decal-friendly but I’ve avoided using them due to the health hazard issues. 1
oldscool Posted July 21, 2022 Posted July 21, 2022 I also prefer Tamiya TS-13. It has never caused me any problems.
R. Thorne Posted July 21, 2022 Posted July 21, 2022 Gx113 is a flat coat, didn’t you mean gx112 for a gloss coat?
Michael jones Posted July 22, 2022 Posted July 22, 2022 2k clear all the way, but I know Mr Color UV cut is very popular in Asia.
W Humble Posted July 23, 2022 Posted July 23, 2022 I use whatever base coat fits my color needs, then usually go with PPG 660 clear (or 661 spot clear) which is a 2K auto finish. Only hazard to my kit is getting it too thick, but at shows everyone wants to know how I get it so shiny -- which flies in the face of the squeamish-ness about 'non-scale' thickness, I suppose. I have tried U-Pol rattle-can clear, which so far seems okay (easier -- if that's my goal) because I know lots of body shops use it. Haven't used lacquer clear for some time, as like the old synthetic enamels, it tends to darken over light undercoats. I have an OLD Mono Avanti that I did in white that now is yellow. Just my angle... Wick
Zippi Posted July 23, 2022 Posted July 23, 2022 My last paint job on my 37 Ford pickup I used the Tamiya acrylic X-22 clear shot through my airbrush. I mixed it 2-1 with Mr. Color Leveling thinner. Turned out great. 1
papajohn97 Posted July 23, 2022 Posted July 23, 2022 On 7/21/2022 at 7:11 AM, R. Thorne said: Gx113 is a flat coat, didn’t you mean gx112 for a gloss coat? Oops, you are correct, it’s the Gx112 gloss that I should have recommended, thank you Mr. Thorne!
R. Thorne Posted July 24, 2022 Posted July 24, 2022 You’re welcome, sir. Thank you for the many helpful posts you have made on this forum.
Dave G. Posted July 24, 2022 Posted July 24, 2022 (edited) On 7/23/2022 at 8:24 AM, Zippi said: My last paint job on my 37 Ford pickup I used the Tamiya acrylic X-22 clear shot through my airbrush. I mixed it 2-1 with Mr. Color Leveling thinner. Turned out great. 2-1 which way Zip ? Awesome blue ! Edited July 24, 2022 by Dave G.
Zippi Posted July 24, 2022 Posted July 24, 2022 (edited) On 7/24/2022 at 7:26 AM, Dave G. said: 2-1 which way Zip ? Awesome blue ! Two parts paint & one part thinner. Edited August 3, 2022 by Zippi
stevez Posted August 3, 2022 Author Posted August 3, 2022 Does this need a clear coat over the base?, Tamiya light sand metallic. Was lightly wet sanded between coats, about 4 or 5.
Bainford Posted August 3, 2022 Posted August 3, 2022 Very nice looking paint, but there is a slight texture, probably inherent in the paint. I don't clear everything, but I think a clear would finish off that paint job very nicely. A couple coats of clear and some light, fine colour sanding or an application of cream polish and that paint will look like a million bucks.
Dpate Posted August 6, 2022 Posted August 6, 2022 On 8/3/2022 at 2:51 PM, Bainford said: Very nice looking paint, but there is a slight texture, probably inherent in the paint. I don't clear everything, but I think a clear would finish off that paint job very nicely. A couple coats of clear and some light, fine colour sanding or an application of cream polish and that paint will look like a million bucks. +1 to clear coat
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