Moebius 1968 F-250

[Fat Brian]

14 hours ago, blubaja said:

The fact that they do throw free kits at him after seeing the way he builds doesn't give me much hope at all.  Idk who it's helping showing so little respect for the products he's getting for free. Definitely a slap in the face to modelers who put a little more effort than that into our builds lol. 

You have to understand, we're the lunatic fringe. Most builders are content with Rustoleum paints and Testors tube glue. I'm sure the model companies love him because he makes building models look accessible. Honestly, I'm sure the model companies don't give a flip what happens to a kit once it gets bought. If Chris is the entry point for new builders to come into the hobby I think it's a net good to all of us.

[JET.]

On 10/18/2024 at 11:43 PM, blubaja said:

The fact that they do throw free kits at him after seeing the way he builds doesn't give me much hope at all.  Idk who it's helping showing so little respect for the products he's getting for free. Definitely a slap in the face to modelers who put a little more effort than that into our builds lol. 

exactly! you think they would want to show their product in the best possible way? same with whoever builds some of the box art models 

a box stock model built to a high standard doesn’t take that long to do, especially if it’s your job there’s really no excuse 

 

[spkgibsonfirebird]

3 hours ago, JET. said:

exactly! you think they would want to show their product in the best possible way? same with whoever builds some of the box art models 

a box stock model built to a high standard doesn’t take that long to do, especially if it’s your job there’s really no excuse 

 

So you I'm actually working on this kit right now, I've had the kit for a few years now, I own three of them, I must take a very long time to build, I have the chassis built and in Black primer, the engine is built and painted in the correct Ford blue, that's it for the paint so far, I just now sanded off the trim to make the base '68 F-250, I do plan on using an actual factory correct color for the paint, I'm going off my '67 dealer brochure and photos off of Google for the proper details, I'm also doing the same thing with the 1967 F-100 I'm building from the service bed kit. I found the complete stock bed off eBay, And tossed that in my kit. So hopefully I can get both of them done by next year or so, I don't have a lot of time because of family obligations right now. Hopefully I can find more time in the future, I used to be able to do a nice looking build in a week or so when I did have more time. 

[DJMar]

On 10/19/2024 at 11:19 AM, Fat Brian said:

You have to understand, we're the lunatic fringe. Most builders are content with Rustoleum paints and Testors tube glue. I'm sure the model companies love him because he makes building models look accessible. Honestly, I'm sure the model companies don't give a flip what happens to a kit once it gets bought. If Chris is the entry point for new builders to come into the hobby I think it's a net good to all of us.

On one hand, I agree. Anything that brings new blood into the hobby, or even sparks an interest in it, is probably good. And that goes for all plastic modeling, not just cars & trucks.

On the other hand, I think that it's a disservice to novice modelers when someone with supposed standing in the hobby (and a YouTube following) showcases shoddy building techniques, questionable use of materials, etc., when building a kit. If someone is new to the modeling game, they might not understand that the level of build quality that they're seeing is subpar.

Sadly, a lot of what is out there, especially on monetized platforms, is just plain dreck.

Let's face it, those videos aren't really about building models, they're about selling them. I'm sure that's good for the model companies & their distributors, but I'm not sure it's always good for the hobby as a whole, new modelers in particular.

Just my two copper.

[Mark C.]

Just a little surprised that we are still talking about this.

I have to say that I just tune into the videos to see the contents of the kits, if I'm trying to decide whether to buy one or not.  Like many models I see posted, there are always things I would do differently, but at least the builds give the viewer a heads-up as to how things go together, and we all know as modelers that to build a kit so that it looks great every time, we have to put more time into it than we'd care to admit.

So, IMHO the service is just giving us a glimpse into kit contents and assembly, and doesn't have a goal of winning model contests with the results.  Honestly, unless it's a person's full time job, I don't know how one would slap together so many kits, produce videos of them on a time deadline, and still have time for a real job, a family life, etc.  When building a model is just a hobby, you can work on it as your free time allows, but if it takes a year to put one together, it's no problem because it's just for fun.  Not to mention that we all go into building slumps from time to time, when the motivation is just not there, and the last thing you want to do is work on a model... that's where the time deadlines come into play IMHO.  Also, we've all experienced times when certain models just seem to fight you, with no apparent rhyme or reason... the ones that people just put back in the box to deal with later (or subject to rapid disassembly, if you know what I mean...).

I say cut the guy a break.

[Biggu]

4 hours ago, Mark C. said:

Just a little surprised that we are still talking about this.

I have to say that I just tune into the videos to see the contents of the kits, if I'm trying to decide whether to buy one or not.  Like many models I see posted, there are always things I would do differently, but at least the builds give the viewer a heads-up as to how things go together, and we all know as modelers that to build a kit so that it looks great every time, we have to put more time into it than we'd care to admit.

So, IMHO the service is just giving us a glimpse into kit contents and assembly, and doesn't have a goal of winning model contests with the results.  Honestly, unless it's a person's full time job, I don't know how one would slap together so many kits, produce videos of them on a time deadline, and still have time for a real job, a family life, etc.  When building a model is just a hobby, you can work on it as your free time allows, but if it takes a year to put one together, it's no problem because it's just for fun.  Not to mention that we all go into building slumps from time to time, when the motivation is just not there, and the last thing you want to do is work on a model... that's where the time deadlines come into play IMHO.  Also, we've all experienced times when certain models just seem to fight you, with no apparent rhyme or reason... the ones that people just put back in the box to deal with later (or subject to rapid disassembly, if you know what I mean...).

I say cut the guy a break.

Well said , Mark

[Biggu]

16 hours ago, spkgibsonfirebird said:

So you I'm actually working on this kit right now, I've had the kit for a few years now, I own three of them, I must take a very long time to build, I have the chassis built and in Black primer, the engine is built and painted in the correct Ford blue, that's it for the paint so far, I just now sanded off the trim to make the base '68 F-250, I do plan on using an actual factory correct color for the paint, I'm going off my '67 dealer brochure and photos off of Google for the proper details, I'm also doing the same thing with the 1967 F-100 I'm building from the service bed kit. I found the complete stock bed off eBay, And tossed that in my kit. So hopefully I can get both of them done by next year or so, I don't have a lot of time because of family obligations right now. Hopefully I can find more time in the future, I used to be able to do a nice looking build in a week or so when I did have more time. 

I’m doing the same thing Stephen, mine will be as close as I can make to my all original , numbers matching ‘68 F 250 2 whl dr 390 4 spd. Boxwood green over Wimbledon white . It was built in August of ‘68 and dad bought it NEW in September ‘68 and I still have her. Never seen snow , and never been hit. Still got her original glass too.
 

Jeff 

[Fat Brian]

18 hours ago, DJMar said:

On one hand, I agree. Anything that brings new blood into the hobby, or even sparks an interest in it, is probably good. And that goes for all plastic modeling, not just cars & trucks.

On the other hand, I think that it's a disservice to novice modelers when someone with supposed standing in the hobby (and a YouTube following) showcases shoddy building techniques, questionable use of materials, etc., when building a kit. If someone is new to the modeling game, they might not understand that the level of build quality that they're seeing is subpar.

Sadly, a lot of what is out there, especially on monetized platforms, is just plain dreck.

Let's face it, those videos aren't really about building models, they're about selling them. I'm sure that's good for the model companies & their distributors, but I'm not sure it's always good for the hobby as a whole, new modelers in particular.

Just my two copper.

I can see it both ways, but if a person wants to advance in the hobby there's nothing stopping them. My youtube feed is full of other builders doing very high caliber builds so anyone watching him will see these videos available too. And if someone has fun building like him then that's fine too.

[leafsprings]

On 10/24/2024 at 3:07 PM, spkgibsonfirebird said:

 I just now sanded off the trim to make the base '68 F-250, I do plan on using an actual factory correct color for the paint, I'm going off my '67 dealer brochure and photos off of Google for the proper details,

I have been collecting factory literature for a while and have found it is actually quite difficult to find a good photo of a base model, most are dolled up 1/2 tons with white walls with plenty of bling.  Here is an excellent photo base model '68 F 250. Painted grill, bumper and hubcaps. I built a base model '70 F 250 a few months back, by that year, aluminum grill and chrome front bumper came standard. 

Edited October 26 by leafsprings

[bobthehobbyguy]

15 hours ago, Mark C. said:

So, IMHO the service is just giving us a glimpse into kit contents and assembly, and doesn't have a goal of winning model contests with the results.  Honestly, unless it's a person's full time job, I don't know how one would slap together so many kits, produce videos of them on a time deadline, and still have time for a real job, a family life, etc.  When building a model is just a hobby, you can work on it as your free time allows, but if it takes a year to put one together, it's no problem because it's just for fun.  Not to mention that we all go into building slumps from time to time, when the motivation is just not there, and the last thing you want to do is work on a model... that's where the time deadlines come into play IMHO.  Also, we've all experienced times when certain models just seem to fight you, with no apparent rhyme or reason... the ones that people just put back in the box to deal with later (or subject to rapid disassembly, if you know what I mean...).

I say cut the guy a break

I like his reviews becuase I can get a idea on how the kit goes together rather than just what parts are in the box. When you are reviewing the large number of kits in a year there are going to be some compromise to the build quality. And I think the same goes for his paint brand choice is the most cost effective.

On 10/19/2024 at 11:19 AM, Fat Brian said:

You have to understand, we're the lunatic fringe. Most builders are content with Rustoleum paints and Testors tube glue. I'm sure the model companies love him because he makes building models look accessible. Honestly, I'm sure the model companies don't give a flip what happens to a kit once it gets bought. If Chris is the entry point for new builders to come into the hobby I think it's a net good to all of us.

Exactly. And as pointed out that there are other youtube channels that venture into the more advanced building techniques.

[spkgibsonfirebird]

42 minutes ago, leafsprings said:

I have been collecting factory literature for a while and have found it is actually quite difficult to find a good photo of a base model, most are dolled up 1/2 tons with white walls with plenty of bling.  Here is an excellent photo base model '68 F 250. Painted grill, bumper and hubcaps. I built a base model '70 F 250 a few months back, by that year, aluminum grill and chrome front bumper came standard. 

That's one great looking truck, I wish I knew the actual color of this. Diamond Blue? I don't own the '68 brochure yet

[Stef]

I appreciate everything you dudes are saying about HPI Guy, and I just realized another thing; he's pretty constant and reliable. He builds about 90%+ of what he gets, so whenever a Round 2, Moebius, Salvinos, or Revellogram kit gets announced, chances are quite good he's going to review/build it, and be the first to do so. Especially for those kits I can't wait for, kits I've never seen, and kits I haven't seen in decades, it truly is a pleasure to behold.

And as far as some OTHER model car YouTubers go, some come late to the party, some are super niche, some do super rough builds, some post once a year, some never finish anything, and some spend a lotta time hocking their wares.

I love 'em all, and HPI and Glen's Models/Model Cars with Glen are my fave of faves: https://www.youtube.com/@glensmodels/videos. Glen's ideas are insane in the membrane and off the chain! Check him out; you will be inspired!

Back on topic, I'm McLovin this 68 F250. As eager as I am to get my hands on the upcoming 72 wrecker, I'm now seriously considering making it a 68!

[Ragtop Man]

19 hours ago, Stef said:

I appreciate everything you dudes are saying about HPI Guy, and I just realized another thing; he's pretty constant and reliable. He builds about 90%+ of what he gets, so whenever a Round 2, Moebius, Salvinos, or Revellogram kit gets announced, chances are quite good he's going to review/build it, and be the first to do so. Especially for those kits I can't wait for, kits I've never seen, and kits I haven't seen in decades, it truly is a pleasure to behold.

And as far as some OTHER model car YouTubers go, some come late to the party, some are super niche, some do super rough builds, some post once a year, some never finish anything, and some spend a lotta time hocking their wares.

I love 'em all, and HPI and Glen's Models/Model Cars with Glen are my fave of faves: https://www.youtube.com/@glensmodels/videos. Glen's ideas are insane in the membrane and off the chain! Check him out; you will be inspired!

Back on topic, I'm McLovin this 68 F250. As eager as I am to get my hands on the upcoming 72 wrecker, I'm now seriously considering making it a 68!

Ditto. 

[Edsel-Dan]

I have 3 of the Ford pickups, with 2 more on the way.

The 3 I already have at home are the 67 Service box, 68 F250 and ??Sport Custom shortbox

this one shows a black and white truck on the box

I am thinking of putting the service box on the 250 rather than the 67 F100

I need Good pictures of the Foam rig (Foam 127) from Emergency

Iknow the grill and front bumper are white not chrome and think the Non-plated rear bumper in the 250 is more accurate

for this build as well.

the 2 I have just ordered are the 70 4x4 and first issue 71.

 

I too am waiting for the wrecker to become available.

 

 

[DJMar]

 

On 10/29/2024 at 12:19 AM, Stef said:

I appreciate everything you dudes are saying about HPI Guy, and I just realized another thing; he's pretty constant and reliable.

Absolutely no hate to HPI or the peeps who like that content, but one reason he's "constant and reliable" is that he has a monetized YouTube channel with over 100k followers, meaning he gets paid for videos and views. Whether it's his side hustle or more of a day job, he isn't doing it for free.

On 10/29/2024 at 12:19 AM, Stef said:

He builds about 90%+ of what he gets, so whenever a Round 2, Moebius, Salvinos, or Revellogram kit gets announced, chances are quite good he's going to review/build it, and be the first to do so.

Because he gets provided kits from Model Roundup, probably free of charge, before most of us get our hands on them at the LHS. Not to mention that Model Roundup also pushes his YouTube channel on their website, driving traffic to his videos. Anyone with a monetized social media account can tell you how beneficial this can be, in terms of generating $$$. He pushes their wares, they push his channel, win-win for them.

Again, 100% no shade thrown. I'm sure it's a cool gig, getting paid to slam together free kits. But the truth is that it's just more marketing, supported by your clicks.

On 10/29/2024 at 12:19 AM, Stef said:

And as far as some OTHER model car YouTubers go, some come late to the party, some are super niche, some do super rough builds, some post once a year, some never finish anything, and some spend a lotta time hocking their wares.

Funny, it's just like any model building forum, anywhere on the Internet, since forever!

Also, you don't like OTHER model car YouTubers "hocking their wares" but you have no problem with HPI using the platform to sell kits? That's the sole purpose of those videos.

[Ron Hamilton]

On 11/1/2024 at 5:21 PM, DJMar said:

 

Absolutely no hate to HPI or the peeps who like that content, but one reason he's "constant and reliable" is that he has a monetized YouTube channel with over 100k followers, meaning he gets paid for videos and views. Whether it's his side hustle or more of a day job, he isn't doing it for free.

Because he gets provided kits from Model Roundup, probably free of charge, before most of us get our hands on them at the LHS. Not to mention that Model Roundup also pushes his YouTube channel on their website, driving traffic to his videos. Anyone with a monetized social media account can tell you how beneficial this can be, in terms of generating $$$. He pushes their wares, they push his channel, win-win for them.

Again, 100% no shade thrown. I'm sure it's a cool gig, getting paid to slam together free kits. But the truth is that it's just more marketing, supported by your clicks.

Funny, it's just like any model building forum, anywhere on the Internet, since forever!

Also, you don't like OTHER model car YouTubers "hocking their wares" but you have no problem with HPI using the platform to sell kits? That's the sole purpose of those videos.

Personally,  I have no problem with Chris'(HPI Guy) kit reviews. They tell me what's in the kit, and how they fit together. It seems to me that he has a good time doing his films and explaining his builds. I wish him well, and look forward to more of his reviews.

[Stef]

On 11/1/2024 at 5:21 PM, DJMar said:

..."hocking their wares" but you have no problem with HPI using the platform to sell kits?

Heh, you're not wrong, DJ. It is a money-making/value-exchanging venture, for sure, and me personally, I don't mind one bit. I'm interested in kits, and HPI delivers the goods for me. As for others "hocking their wares" (and not to single anyone out), there are a few YT dudes who make their own custom resin/3D/aftermarket stuff, and/or promote businesses that do. I'm not personally interested in that stuff as a general rule, so I either skip those videos, or skip those segments. There are lots of people who are really into that stuff, and that makes them happy, and I am all for it. Hope that makes sense.

This hobby needs, and has, lots of types of people, and I encourage everyone to do what works for them. Some lurk and build in isolation, while others travel, network, promote, write, publish, review, sell, sell, sell, and I love it all. Together, everyone keeps this hobby alive and thriving. It is all of you guys who introduced me to all kinds of new and interesting stuff. I give a 21-gun salute to anyone in this hobby making videos; it is a LOT of work, and mad respect to the dudes who can build and film and talk and NOT lose all their footage, or have their computers melt down!

TL;DR... I love you cats, even though I tend to lurk more than post. You are all so knowledgeable, generous, helpful, creative, talented, skilled, accomplished, and humble. The builds you post, the ideas you come up with, the kit histories you share, it truly blows my mind.

Godspeed, good sirs!

[leafsprings]

On 11/1/2024 at 1:51 PM, Edsel-Dan said:

 

I need Good pictures of the Foam rig (Foam 127) from Emergency

Iknow the grill and front bumper are white not chrome and think the Non-plated rear bumper in the 250 is more accurate

for this build as well.

 

 

 

Seen that one, it is a base model '67 F 250, bottom photo is the best I can find.  The foam unit has the early '67 F 250 hubcap which fits early '67 16" and 17.5" wheels. These  8 lug wheels, used from 1956-1966, have inner tab hubcap rentention,  never done by anyone to this date in the 1/25 hobby. It appears it has the 17.5" wheels on the front, can't make out what is on the rear. IMO, Moebius unknowingly created this "early '67  F 250 only" hubcap on the '69 F 100 kit. '67's also came with the larger F 250 cap, the cap used on the '68 F 250 kit, second photo, when ordered with the new 16.5" wheel.

Edited Sunday at 12:13 AM by leafsprings

[Jordan White]

Maybe it’s just me, but could we move this HPI Guy discussion to its own thread? I keep coming in here thinking theres discussion about the kit itself and instead being disappointed!

[niteowl7710]

On 11/9/2024 at 1:17 PM, Jordan White said:

Maybe it’s just me, but could we move this HPI Guy discussion to its own thread? I keep coming in here thinking theres discussion about the kit itself and instead being disappointed!

The kit came out 2 years ago, and this thread would have stayed dead if someone hadn't decided to raise it like a zombie.

[Mark C.]

Maybe the discussion about the build quality of online model kit introduction videos can just end.  I don't want to see a separate thread for it. 

However, I am finding the discussion about baseline trucks and proper hubcaps to be interesting, as I have some of these kits but don't have much Ford pickup knowledge.  The thread revival has been good for that, for me.