WizPorsche944 Posted August 22, 2022 Posted August 22, 2022 I am looking to buy a paint booth, I have officially had enough of painting outside ( bugs always land on my paintwork ) Plus I can work in winter. What do you guys recommendation getting with a budget of $100. Also how do these work inside ?
yh70 Posted August 22, 2022 Posted August 22, 2022 this is what i have..had it for quite a few years now and never had any problems. just keep the filter clean..shop around. this is just one i pulled up to show u..they have went up like ever thing as i had only paid $70 for mine..https://www.ebay.com/itm/293751056125?hash=item4464ed66fd:g:DIsAAOSwLzlglP6J&amdata=enc%3AAQAHAAABALCss%2BwNjtLBW2gRthAo81Wp0BHSTppnqbejtofUM%2BKg6e7xO%2BB25irKe5kF4vy2slprQQ7v3gzdvzXx9%2BMo1EgAvxJTay9yr78F2cX0lBEugI%2FDFlOw5bHZ87FWXAowbr0wye019dnDYsfF9uDas5eW%2B2n0QA1%2FzgmT78ZtEhWCI%2B7DUEmBR%2BA2icWXZ3qiSAvh8kzybXajKxWp4hH1%2FbE%2BBMnNWKPmaI7J%2F6M0KpkSPsIjXFuWDaCBaBSVFixXVIweqT6FYm2WgazEDaYgUiLLxp2iAUcw0BR43q0gQ1mv6UKukwyIHKgMfbYiuSo9ZQTGk2MF%2BIWjPuwhxReK%2BnQ%3D|tkp%3ABk9SR7LfuNzYYA
TarheelRick Posted August 22, 2022 Posted August 22, 2022 40 minutes ago, WizPorsche944 said: Also how do these work inside ? They all work pretty well inside; however, they all have to be vented to the outside, usually through an open window.
Rick L Posted August 22, 2022 Posted August 22, 2022 Pace peacekeeper spray booth is made of aluminum, can handle flammable paints, and has good suction. It’s on the expensive side but it’s the only one you’ll buy. Pacepaintbooth.com
NOBLNG Posted August 22, 2022 Posted August 22, 2022 (edited) If you go to the “Tips and Tricks” section there is a 17 page thread on “Paint Booths & Safe Ventilation”. I haven’t read the entire thread, but there are some good tips on building your own booth safely. Edited August 22, 2022 by NOBLNG
Ace-Garageguy Posted August 22, 2022 Posted August 22, 2022 (edited) Cardboard box, 12V bilge fan (USCG 183.410 compliant, ignition protected), furnace filter, dryer duct to outside, duct tape, assembled with common sense. https://ecfr.io/Title-33/Section-183.410 QUOTING: § 183.410 Ignition protection. (a) Each electrical component must not ignite a propane gas and air mixture that is 4.25 to 5.25 percent propane gas by volume surrounding the electrical component when it is operated at each of its manufacturer rated voltages and current loadings Edited August 23, 2022 by Ace-Garageguy
Raoul Ross Posted August 22, 2022 Posted August 22, 2022 Do you think it needs an explosion-proof fan? Do present modeling-type paint booths have them?
Ace-Garageguy Posted August 22, 2022 Posted August 22, 2022 (edited) 27 minutes ago, Raoul Ross said: Do you think it needs an explosion-proof fan? Do present modeling-type paint booths have them? It's one of those "why not?" kinda things. Hydrocarbon vapors from lacquers and enamels can reach high enough concentrations to present a hazard under certain circumstances. I've seen a fire in a full-scale paint booth caused by a sparking fan motor that had been incorrectly mounted in the exhaust air stream. Fan motors in units like the Pace are mounted out of the exhaust air stream, but who knows about the cheapo Chinese units? Are you likely to have a model-car paint booth fire? Nope. But why risk it? An ignition-resistant inline 12V bilge fan is only $25-$45, and it's pretty cheap insurance against burning the house down. EDIT: You're also likely to encounter warnings on a packaged booth, something like "Not intended for use with Hazardous Materials, Flammable or Explosive Paints or Materials." Their lawyers aren't willing to chance it, so why should you? EDIT 2: Paint booth precautions are a lot like safe firearms handling procedures. Lotsa folks don't bother, thinking excessive safety awareness is stupid, but they're the ones more likely to have things go wrong, and then blame the weapon when they lose an eye, or a kid. Edited August 22, 2022 by Ace-Garageguy
Raoul Ross Posted August 22, 2022 Posted August 22, 2022 Ha, if mine started on fire I'd just push it out the window. I'm on the first floor so no chance of lighting-up someone's hair. ? If I was to build one I'd look at a bathroom ceiling fan. Comes with a box and would be easily mounted to a thin plywood board, like 3/8" or so. I think the important part would be filtering, that's where I'd spend the money. 1
Ace-Garageguy Posted August 22, 2022 Posted August 22, 2022 Just now, Raoul Ross said: Ha, if mine started on fire I'd just push it out the window. I'm on the first floor so no chance of lighting-up someone's hair. ? If I was to build one I'd look at a bathroom ceiling fan. Comes with a box and would be easily mounted to a thin plywood board, like 3/8" or so. I think the important part would be filtering, that's where I'd spend the money. All you're filtering with a model booth is outgoing air, taking the particulate paint out of the exhaust. A furnace filter is pretty much all that's required. Incoming air isn't filtered. The bay where the model goes is wide open to the room, so you can get your paws and airbrush in. Making sure YOU are clean and dust-free prior to painting, and that windows aren't open while there's a dust-storm blowing outside, that's pretty much it.
ksnow Posted August 22, 2022 Posted August 22, 2022 Here is my low cost solution. 12 volt power supply and a 12 volt bilge fan. A furnace filter and some dryer ducting. Leftover paneling from a home improvement project. Works very well with spray paint.
Ace-Garageguy Posted August 22, 2022 Posted August 22, 2022 8 minutes ago, ksnow said: Here is my low cost solution. 12 volt power supply and a 12 volt bilge fan. A furnace filter and some dryer ducting. Leftover paneling from a home improvement project. Works very well with spray paint. Excellent. I see you have the fan mounted close to the end of the duct, where it's much more effective pulling than it would be mounted close to the booth, where it would be pushing. Well done.
ksnow Posted August 22, 2022 Posted August 22, 2022 1 hour ago, Ace-Garageguy said: Excellent. I see you have the fan mounted close to the end of the duct, where it's much more effective pulling than it would be mounted close to the booth, where it would be pushing. Well done. I read and rearead the paint booth sticky in this forum. If I am going to do it, I might as well do it right. And yes, fans are much better at pulling air than pushing air.
NOBLNG Posted August 22, 2022 Posted August 22, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, Raoul Ross said: Ha, if mine started on fire I'd just push it out the window. I'm on the first floor so no chance of lighting-up someone's hair. ? If I was to build one I'd look at a bathroom ceiling fan. Comes with a box and would be easily mounted to a thin plywood board, like 3/8" or so. I think the important part would be filtering, that's where I'd spend the money. I wouldn’t use a bathroom fan if the motor is in the airstream. Edited August 22, 2022 by NOBLNG
Raoul Ross Posted August 23, 2022 Posted August 23, 2022 6 hours ago, Ace-Garageguy said: An ignition-resistant inline 12V bilge fan is only $25-$45, and it's pretty cheap insurance against burning the house down. That is a lot more reasonable than I thought... Carry On!
ksnow Posted August 23, 2022 Posted August 23, 2022 Between the fan and the power supply, I've got $70 in my booth. I bought the supply through an LED light place, I wanted a 10 amp supply, cause the fan calls for a 10 amp fuse. Used an automotive fuse holder and a 12 volt switch for on and off. No messing around with 110 wiring. It amazes me how so many people will work so hard to do it any way but the right way. 1
Ace-Garageguy Posted August 23, 2022 Posted August 23, 2022 (edited) 14 hours ago, ksnow said: Between the fan and the power supply, I've got $70 in my booth...It amazes me how so many people will work so hard to do it any way but the right way. Your setup is the best homebuilt I've seen to date. Simple, obviously very effective and doing exactly what it needs to do, and cheap. Edited August 23, 2022 by Ace-Garageguy TYPO
yh70 Posted August 23, 2022 Posted August 23, 2022 here is a picture of mine i was talking about above that i bought years ago off Ebay.. lot of builders think this unit is un safe but as u can see i use rattle cans..
ksnow Posted August 23, 2022 Posted August 23, 2022 6 minutes ago, Ace-Garageguy said: Your setup is the beast homebuilt I've seen to date. Simple, obviously very effective and doing exactly what it needs to do, and cheap. Thanks, Ace.
64SS350 Posted August 23, 2022 Posted August 23, 2022 Yes, thanks Ace! I had never heard of a bilge fan before (not a mariner). Are any styles better than others?
ksnow Posted August 23, 2022 Posted August 23, 2022 Here is the exact blower I used: https://www.wholesalemarine.com/shurflo-4-yellow-tail-blower.html And the power supply https://www.boogeylights.com/10-amp-110vac-to-12vdc-power-converter/ Prices have gone up since I built mine last year. Add a few crimp connectors, an in-line fuse holder and a 12 volt switch. and a little wire.
64SS350 Posted August 23, 2022 Posted August 23, 2022 Thanks for starting this thread, I had decided to put a booth in for this winter. I have read the others and checked prices on premade units for a couple years. This sounds up my alley....DIY!
Brutalform Posted August 26, 2022 Posted August 26, 2022 On 8/23/2022 at 9:33 AM, 64SS350 said: Thanks for starting this thread, I had decided to put a booth in for this winter. I have read the others and checked prices on premade units for a couple years. This sounds up my alley....DIY! Same here! Bought a 4” bilge fan for $40 from Amazon, and plan on building mine in the winter also. After seeing the prices of some (safe) quality booths, I decided to build my own also.
iamsuperdan Posted August 26, 2022 Posted August 26, 2022 Lots of good info here. Bilge fan, power supply, ducting, hose clamps, all available on Amazon for $130 CDN. Add a furnace filter and either scrap wood or foam core board, and done. Not as daunting as I thought. Time to upgrade my painting area.
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