2023 BRGB Tri axle T600 K-whooper

[Gary Chastain]

My 2023 BRGB will be a Kenworth T600A (after much digging thru my stash and deliberating) on truck for my four axle trailer project. I will be adding the third tag axle from KFS, possible fenders for the rear axles from Keystone, frame stretch to accommodate third axle. Undecided if I will use fairings (have a couple different styles) or redo the front fenders (add lower extensions) and have exposed battery boxes and fuel tanks. Picture for inspiration  

[Pete68]

That’s going to be sweet. 

[Gary Chastain]

7 minutes ago, Pete68 said:

That’s going to be sweet. 

We will see, this kit has a lot of issues, including the wrong rear suspension for the T600. 

[Joe Nunes]

Will be watching and enjoying this build!  Have fun with it!

Joe

[Jim B]

19 minutes ago, Gary Chastain said:

We will see, this kit has a lot of issues, including the wrong rear suspension for the T600. 

Very true.  The kit is essentially a 1990s-ish cab on a 1970s frame & engine.  To make an accurate T600, a lot of things need to be changed.

[Gary Chastain]

20 minutes ago, Jim B said:

Very true.  The kit is essentially a 1990s-ish cab on a 1970s frame & engine.  To make an accurate T600, a lot of things need to be changed.

What are some other things that you would change?

[Jim B]

Well, as you mentioned, the rear suspension needs to be updated.  I'd use the rear suspension from the AMT K100 Aerodyne. The front suspension needs to be updated.  The NTC350 (or whatever it's supposed to be) is archaic by 1990, so my plan is to put a Detroit Diesel Series60 in mine.  The double stich transmission needs to be replaced, and I think the interior could use an update (but I'm not sure on that one).  Maybe a more modern steering wheel & dash could update the look.

[Gary Chastain]

26 minutes ago, Jim B said:

Well, as you mentioned, the rear suspension needs to be updated.  I'd use the rear suspension from the AMT K100 Aerodyne. The front suspension needs to be updated.  The NTC350 (or whatever it's supposed to be) is archaic by 1990, so my plan is to put a Detroit Diesel Series60 in mine.  The double stich transmission needs to be replaced, and I think the interior could use an update (but I'm not sure on that one).  Maybe a more modern steering wheel & dash could update the look.

Thanks for the input, that helps. I actually have the K100 I can steal from and a Detroit, not sure about the front suspension update. Was there ever a twin turbo Detroit offered from the factory in any truck?

[Jim B]

Never heard of one.  Maybe an older one.

These might help:

CM17 Jan 1993 - Updating AMT's Kenworth T600; the rear suspension. album | Dutch Model Truck Club | Fotki.com, photo and video sharing made easy.

CM18 Mar 1993, Updating AMT's KW T600; steering syst & front susp. album | Dutch Model Truck Club | Fotki.com, photo and video sharing made easy.

CM19 May 1993, Updating AMT's KW T600; correcting the hood. album | Dutch Model Truck Club | Fotki.com, photo and video sharing made easy.

CM20 July 1993, Updating AMT's KW T600; the air-intake system. album | Dutch Model Truck Club | Fotki.com, photo and video sharing made easy.

CM21 Sept 1993, Converting AMT's Cummins NTA 370 into a N14. album | Dutch Model Truck Club | Fotki.com, photo and video sharing made easy.

CM23 Jan 1994, Updating AMT's KW T600; installing the Cummins N14 album | Dutch Model Truck Club | Fotki.com, photo and video sharing made easy.

Good luck.

[Gary Chastain]

36 minutes ago, Jim B said:

Never heard of one.  Maybe an older one.

These might help:

CM17 Jan 1993 - Updating AMT's Kenworth T600; the rear suspension. album | Dutch Model Truck Club | Fotki.com, photo and video sharing made easy.

CM18 Mar 1993, Updating AMT's KW T600; steering syst & front susp. album | Dutch Model Truck Club | Fotki.com, photo and video sharing made easy.

CM19 May 1993, Updating AMT's KW T600; correcting the hood. album | Dutch Model Truck Club | Fotki.com, photo and video sharing made easy.

CM20 July 1993, Updating AMT's KW T600; the air-intake system. album | Dutch Model Truck Club | Fotki.com, photo and video sharing made easy.

CM21 Sept 1993, Converting AMT's Cummins NTA 370 into a N14. album | Dutch Model Truck Club | Fotki.com, photo and video sharing made easy.

CM23 Jan 1994, Updating AMT's KW T600; installing the Cummins N14 album | Dutch Model Truck Club | Fotki.com, photo and video sharing made easy.

Good luck.

Thanks James, doing some internet research, looks like there where several different suspensions offered. Also did not realize that there was a T600B as well. I will go thru these pages you sent. 

[Pete68]

2 hours ago, Jim B said:

I think the interior could use an update (but I'm not sure on that one).

I think he will be ok on the interior tub just need to add slam lock door handles. I drove a 1992 that still had the “ Tuck n Roll” or as Kenworth advertised Splendor option interior it was pretty cool. 

[Pete68]

1 hour ago, Gary Chastain said:

Was there ever a twin turbo Detroit offered from the factory in any truck?

Yes especially the 12V71TT twin turbo 

Edited February 2, 2023 by Pete68

[Gary Chastain]

30 minutes ago, Pete68 said:

Yes especially the 12V71TT twin turbo 

What trucks would have had this engine?

[Pete68]

1 hour ago, Gary Chastain said:

What trucks would have had this engine?

The long nose GMC 9500 

The long nose Chevy 90 

Chevy Titan 90

GMC Astro 95

Kenworth K-100 Cabover 

Kenworth W-900 ex cowel and ex hood 

Peterbilt 359 ex. hood 

Peterbiilt 352 Cabover 

International 4070A Turnpiker  

White Freightliner Powerliners

Brockways

Mack 700s 

but they were mostly used in marine use. If your looking for this engine in 1/25 scale it’s in Tyrone Malone Super Boss kit. 

Edited February 3, 2023 by Pete68

[yh70]

gonna look Awesome..

[Gary Chastain]

17 hours ago, Jim B said:

Never heard of one.  Maybe an older one.

These might help:

CM17 Jan 1993 - Updating AMT's Kenworth T600; the rear suspension. album | Dutch Model Truck Club | Fotki.com, photo and video sharing made easy.

CM18 Mar 1993, Updating AMT's KW T600; steering syst & front susp. album | Dutch Model Truck Club | Fotki.com, photo and video sharing made easy.

CM19 May 1993, Updating AMT's KW T600; correcting the hood. album | Dutch Model Truck Club | Fotki.com, photo and video sharing made easy.

CM20 July 1993, Updating AMT's KW T600; the air-intake system. album | Dutch Model Truck Club | Fotki.com, photo and video sharing made easy.

CM21 Sept 1993, Converting AMT's Cummins NTA 370 into a N14. album | Dutch Model Truck Club | Fotki.com, photo and video sharing made easy.

CM23 Jan 1994, Updating AMT's KW T600; installing the Cummins N14 album | Dutch Model Truck Club | Fotki.com, photo and video sharing made easy.

Good luck.

Thanks James for all the info. Dug thru my stash and found a kit (purchased from Hobby Lobby on sale)with what looks to be the correct pieces I need to correct the suspension. Looked up all those tips and printed them and put in binder to get organized before I start the build. 

[Warren D]

You might also look at the lift axle, KFS is 1/24 and the first lift axle I did used one of those.  It was way wider and needed narrowing. 

[Gary Chastain]

5 minutes ago, Warren D said:

You might also look at the lift axle, KFS is 1/24 and the first lift axle I did used one of those.  It was way wider and needed narrowing. 

I have two or three different lift axles to choose from, so yes I will take a look how it fits or use a different unit. 

[Gary Chastain]

Progress, built and installed the correct suspension in the rear, used correct front axle, stretched frame, tag air axle roughly installed. A quick mock-up. 

[Dutzie]

I like the addition of the 3rd axle. I like all the fairings myself IMO, they give the truck a sportier look. 

[Gary Chastain]

48 minutes ago, Dutzie said:

I like the addition of the 3rd axle. I like all the fairings myself IMO, they give the truck a sportier look. 

Yup, I agree on the fairings on the newer style trucks. 

[Pete68]

Great looking mock up its looking good 

[Gary Chastain]

Mocked up one more time using the aero skirts from the Canepa kit, a set of wide singles. Think I will try to make rear fender from scratch but I am going with this idea. 

[Gary Chastain]

First time building rear fenders from scratch, think I will thin the face down just a little more but I did match the curve of the fairings. Also needs a radius on the edges , see where this goes  

[tbill]

Good gravy that’s gonna be sexy!