Scott8950 Posted August 23, 2023 Posted August 23, 2023 This guy is absolutely amazing and this build is jaw dropping. 2
Dpate Posted August 23, 2023 Posted August 23, 2023 Yeah don’t really think he came up with the hinge idea on his own. Sure makes himself seems like he did with that ego.
Scott8950 Posted August 23, 2023 Author Posted August 23, 2023 8 hours ago, Dpate said: Yeah don’t really think he came up with the hinge idea on his own. Sure makes himself seems like he did with that ego. I saw almost the same hinge on a4 garage awhile back.
Rockford Posted August 24, 2023 Posted August 24, 2023 They are way beyond me, oh if only... I console myself by thinking that if I built something that good I'd be bound to drop it on the way into the show, therefore I've managed to avoid a whole world of disappointment in my life! 3
iamsuperdan Posted August 24, 2023 Posted August 24, 2023 Beautiful build for sure, and definitely more than my skills could achieve, but I think when it comes to the "most detailed model" then I feel A4 Garage or Mokei Paint go a step or two further. For example, the panel beneath his windshield. Looks like he used a wash to highlight the openings. Which is totally fine, and is what myself and most others would do as well. However, some others would have actually opened those up. And A4 Garage would probably have built the plumbing underneath to run the fresh air into the cabin. Check these out: 1
StevenGuthmiller Posted August 24, 2023 Posted August 24, 2023 (edited) I don't know if it's the "best" or "most detailed" model I've ever seen, (actually, I know it's not) but what people have to take into consideration is the starting point of this model, and the kinds of thought and engineering that had to go into it to achieve this level of detail. This started out as an extremely rudimentary 1964 screw bottom kit. Not much better than a promo. It's exceedingly easier to achieve this level when you're starting with something more modern with a much higher level of detail to start with. Not only that, but it's my opinion that in many cases, factory stock models get a bad rap as being "easier" than other genres. I feel that this attitude is absolutely false, although I suppose that I could be a little biased. Other genres, such as customs, rods, and many racing subjects afford much wider leeway as far as what you are "allowed" to realistically do to the model. Factory stock, if it's to be accurate, requires a great deal of discipline and research to get everything as close to correct as possible. Myself, I strive to be as correct as I possibly can when building factory stock, but I almost never completely achieve that goal successfully, for various reasons. Another factor is aftermarket parts availability. Very often you'll see a model at a show that is exceptional and just crammed with after market parts and accessories. In a circumstance such as this '64 Grand Prix, and being built in a factory stock configuration, there is virtually zero aftermarket parts availability, so basically every improvement made has to be either found via another kit, or scratch made or modified. I take this kind of work into consideration when viewing models on a contest table. Regardless of the level of detail, the actual thought invested and work involved must be a factor in considering which models are a better "skill" example. No disrespect to the modeler in the above videos, but in the opening seconds, you can already begin to see the advantages that he has with the BMW. Separate belt line trim is a big plus, then followed by simply opening a box full of 3-D printed parts for the engine bay. My point is that after watching less than 2 or 3 minutes of the video, he already has a vast advantage over the work that will be required for a somewhat accurate engine bay and body trim for the '64 Grand Prix. In any case, in virtually every build, there is room for improvement, and Bob's '64 is no exception, but he is certainly a top notch modeler, and there's no way that anyone can say otherwise. Steve Edited August 24, 2023 by StevenGuthmiller 3
Rattlecan Dan Posted August 26, 2023 Posted August 26, 2023 Here, here! Well said Steve. " I'll drink to that ".
Dpate Posted August 27, 2023 Posted August 27, 2023 On 8/23/2023 at 7:29 AM, Scott8950 said: I saw almost the same hinge on a4 garage awhile back. You did just a better version of it as I recall a pic of it in my head lol.
rrb124@sbcglobal.net Posted August 27, 2023 Posted August 27, 2023 Loved seeing the 64 Grand Prix video. Fall of 1963, my parents bought a new 64 Grand Prix in Marimba Red. Learned to drive in it and took my drivers test with it. I remember every detail! Guess it was not a 421 engine car because it didn't have the 421 flag emblems on the side of the front fenders.
JollySipper Posted August 27, 2023 Posted August 27, 2023 On 8/24/2023 at 12:31 PM, StevenGuthmiller said: what people have to take into consideration is the starting point of this model I was hoping that you would chime in, Steven! The detail that goes into your builds looks so natural and in scale....... I was curious as to your view on the subject. You're right, too, in the fact that the better kit you start with, the better the end results are.
StevenGuthmiller Posted August 27, 2023 Posted August 27, 2023 55 minutes ago, JollySipper said: I was hoping that you would chime in, Steven! The detail that goes into your builds looks so natural and in scale....... I was curious as to your view on the subject. You're right, too, in the fact that the better kit you start with, the better the end results are. Well, not so much “the better the results are”, but the easier it is to get there, and the more time that you can dedicate to tinier, more intricate details. It’s easier to justify concentrating on chassis spot welds when you don’t have to dedicate the time and resources to scratch build an entire engine bay. That sort of thing. Steve
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