1957 Ford Del Rio Ranch Wagon

[dragcarz]

Looking forward to this build Bob, looking good so far!

[Zippi]

51 minutes ago, dragcarz said:

Looking forward to this build Bob, looking good so far!

That's Roger.  Trying to figure out my paint strategy now.

[Zippi]

I got the body prepped this morning and it's now in primer.  I'm thinking I'll paint the body all white then mask off the white area and shoot the green.  This will save me from masking it off twice.  How would you go about shooting this two tone paint job? 

[LennyB]

I agree, shoot the white first and then the green. I have one of these I plan to do shortly and I'm going with a two-tone also. Are you going to do the gold inside the molding?

[Zippi]

16 minutes ago, LennyB said:

I agree, shoot the white first and then the green. I have one of these I plan to do shortly and I'm going with a two-tone also. Are you going to do the gold inside the molding?

Yup.  There are gold decals in the kit but I have some gold bmf on back order at my local hobby shop.

[espo]

Another alternative to foil or decals maybe to use Tamiya TS-21 Gold spray for the inset. Suggest masking the area where it meets the chrome trim before foiling. After the paint dries just mask the area off when painting the body. 

[Zippi]

17 minutes ago, espo said:

Another alternative to foil or decals maybe to use Tamiya TS-21 Gold spray for the inset. Suggest masking the area where it meets the chrome trim before foiling. After the paint dries just mask the area off when painting the body. 

Yup, more than one way to skin a cat so to speak.  

[DJMar]

3 hours ago, Zippi said:

How would you go about shooting this two tone paint job?

Yes, lighter color first, then mask and shoot with the darker color. I'm with you on the gold BMF, I think that will look the best for the side insert.

How do you plan the break at the rear? I've seen it done a number of different ways and none of them look easy.

[DJMar]

Delete, double post.

Edited September 6, 2024 by DJMar

[bill-e-boy]

19 minutes ago, DJMar said:

Yes, lighter color first, then mask and shoot with the darker color. I'm with you on the gold BMF, I think that will look the best for the side insert.

How do you plan the break at the rear? I've seen it done a number of different ways and none of them look easy.

Re the break at the rear. I did a 56 Nomad with a different colour scheme than normally seen so I made a small piece if trim with some half round rod for the colour break. I then foiled the trim and it looks like the factory put it there

And Yup Bob - white first then mask and paint the darker coluor. I have not seen gold foil in the flesh. Is it anodised ally, if it is it may be a bit stiffer than normal foil. Will wait and watch

 

[espo]

Your reference picture of the green and white Del Rio is how Ford did the two-tone paint from the factory for the front. An attractive color combination. The rear paint treatment is where some controversy may come in. The only thing that really matters is what you want it to look like. I have seen it done two ways as an OEM paint treatment. #1 would be like was done on the passenger cars. The break would be from the bottom center of the tail lamps to the bumper leaving the tail gate area the same color as the middle color on the body sides. #2 May have been a factory option since I recall seeing it done also in this fashion when these were new. Ford had a small diameter chrome trim that started where the rear window opened and curving along the top of the taillight fin and ending in the center of the top of the fin. This was to break the side colors from the roof and lower body leaving the tailgate the same color as the roof and lower body. Strickly as a visual example and not trying to tell you how to do your color treatment in any way, this picture is just an example to see if it would even be a consideration.  

 

[Zippi]

3 hours ago, DJMar said:

Yes, lighter color first, then mask and shoot with the darker color. I'm with you on the gold BMF, I think that will look the best for the side insert.

How do you plan the break at the rear? I've seen it done a number of different ways and none of them look easy.

I'm not sure just yet.  I need to study my options.  

[Zippi]

2 hours ago, bill-e-boy said:

Re the break at the rear. I did a 56 Nomad with a different colour scheme than normally seen so I made a small piece if trim with some half round rod for the colour break. I then foiled the trim and it looks like the factory put it there

And Yup Bob - white first then mask and paint the darker coluor. I have not seen gold foil in the flesh. Is it anodised ally, if it is it may be a bit stiffer than normal foil. Will wait and watch

 

Thanks man.  Yup, I need to set down and think about how I want the front and rear to look.  Doesn't have to be factory but just look nice.

[Zippi]

1 hour ago, espo said:

Your reference picture of the green and white Del Rio is how Ford did the two-tone paint from the factory for the front. An attractive color combination. The rear paint treatment is where some controversy may come in. The only thing that really matters is what you want it to look like. I have seen it done two ways as an OEM paint treatment. #1 would be like was done on the passenger cars. The break would be from the bottom center of the tail lamps to the bumper leaving the tail gate area the same color as the middle color on the body sides. #2 May have been a factory option since I recall seeing it done also in this fashion when these were new. Ford had a small diameter chrome trim that started where the rear window opened and curving along the top of the taillight fin and ending in the center of the top of the fin. This was to break the side colors from the roof and lower body leaving the tailgate the same color as the roof and lower body. Strickly as a visual example and not trying to tell you how to do your color treatment in any way, this picture is just an example to see if it would even be a consideration.  

 

I appreciate all the info.  I probably won't get to this until next week sometime.  

[Zippi]

Just a little detail work left and install the wheels & tires and I think the chassis will be done.

[Zippi]

I finally got a little bench time and I think I'm finished with the engine bay area.  The wheels & tires are finished as well.  

[bill-e-boy]

When two toning obviously the separation lines will be based around the body trim. Sometimes they dont quite reach to create a full break. I know on my 1:1 56 dodge there is a paint break at the rear. As I said above sometimes you can create an artificial break by adding some Phantom trim like the separation between vinyl tops and the rest of the body. The good thing with using trim lines for colour breaks is you are not left with a ragged edge with a paint to paint break

For the Ranchero you could add a trim line all around the base of the roof under the windows and have the whole greenhouse one colour and a second below that. Or even add in a third colour as you would then have two body break lines. Red, white n blue LOL

Pix below is a 56 Nomad I did this a while back and the usual 56 paint breaks are quite different. 

The break is just behind the door which is a bit of trim I made up out of half round and foiled. This shot is before foil

 

 

[bluestringer]

Looking good Bob. Nice detail work.

[dragcarz]

Really coming along Bob, details look great!

[milo1303s]

Sorry but those wheels and tires look like they should be on a 90's Chevy Cavalier or Lumina everything else looks awesome !!

[Zippi]

On 9/13/2024 at 3:17 PM, bill-e-boy said:

When two toning obviously the separation lines will be based around the body trim. Sometimes they dont quite reach to create a full break. I know on my 1:1 56 dodge there is a paint break at the rear. As I said above sometimes you can create an artificial break by adding some Phantom trim like the separation between vinyl tops and the rest of the body. The good thing with using trim lines for colour breaks is you are not left with a ragged edge with a paint to paint break

For the Ranchero you could add a trim line all around the base of the roof under the windows and have the whole greenhouse one colour and a second below that. Or even add in a third colour as you would then have two body break lines. Red, white n blue LOL

Pix below is a 56 Nomad I did this a while back and the usual 56 paint breaks are quite different. 

The break is just behind the door which is a bit of trim I made up out of half round and foiled. This shot is before foil

 

 

Thanks for the info Bill.  Much appreciated.

[Zippi]

On 9/13/2024 at 5:28 PM, bluestringer said:

Looking good Bob. Nice detail work.

Much obliged there James.

[Zippi]

On 9/13/2024 at 5:32 PM, dragcarz said:

Really coming along Bob, details look great!

Thanks Roger.  I think I needed that little break from the bench while working on Ruby.

On 9/13/2024 at 7:11 PM, milo1303s said:

Sorry but those wheels and tires look like they should be on a 90's Chevy Cavalier or Lumina everything else looks awesome !!

Thanks.

[Zippi]

I took about a week off from being at the bench so I could do some touch up paint work on my 1:1 49 Chevy Pickup.  I did manage to get the 57 Ranch Wagon to the spray booth this morning and get the Splash Paints Dover White on the body.  Can't really tell much as it kinda looks like the white primer that was already laid down.  I'll let this set for a few days then mask off the white so I can spray the Seamist Green.  

[Rattlecan Dan]

Looking cool as usual. Couldn't believe you took a week off, till you said it was for your 1:1 '49.  Nice.