lordairgtar Posted January 1 Posted January 1 I am ressurecting a 65 Imperial and I wish to locate a nice 413 in 1/25 scale. I have the original kit supplied engine but its kinda messed up with glue. Is there a kit that has that engine or a aftermarket supplier?
StevenGuthmiller Posted January 1 Posted January 1 (edited) Pretty much any big block Mopar engine from whatever kit is going to be a fair representation. The overall appearance between a 440, 426, 413, 383, etc, doesn’t change a whole lot, with of course the exception of the Hemi, and the various intakes. Steve Edited January 1 by StevenGuthmiller
1972coronet Posted January 2 Posted January 2 Revell's Chrysler B/RB engines (1969 Dart, 1968 Darts, 1968 Chargers, 1969 Chargers) are mighty fine. The air cleaner from a '64-'66 (the single four barrel) would be correct - not sure if any resin casters offer them ? Valve covers are different ; 1969 & earlier , 1970 - 1978 . PCV and breather switched sides for '70. The aforementioned Revell engines also include nice 727 Torqueflites. 2 1
gtx6970 Posted January 2 Posted January 2 (edited) Keep in mind the early B-RB engines have a 4 bolt valve cover. as opposed to these kit suggested engines use a 6 bolt valve cover IF that tiny detail makes a difference to you in scale Edited January 2 by gtx6970 3
johnyrotten Posted January 2 Posted January 2 6 hours ago, gtx6970 said: Keep in mind the early B-RB engines have a 4 bolt valve cover. as opposed to these kit suggested engines use a 6 bolt valve cover Good catch, I wasn't aware of that.
1972coronet Posted January 2 Posted January 2 10 hours ago, gtx6970 said: Keep in mind the early B-RB engines have a 4 bolt valve cover. as opposed to these kit suggested engines use a 6 bolt valve cover '58 - '63/'64 , IIRC. Good call. A detail which I'd forgotten to note.
gtx6970 Posted January 2 Posted January 2 (edited) This is the engine from the Lindberg / AMT 1964 Dodge - Plymouth kits It has a single 4 barrel intake option as well Edited January 2 by gtx6970 3 1
StevenGuthmiller Posted January 2 Posted January 2 In all honesty, regardless of whether or not there are 2 extra bolts on the valve covers, I would go with whichever engine is the most detailed. I don't think most people are going to be counting valve cover bolts. Just what I would do anyway. If it is an issue for you, you can always do a little kit bashing and swap valve covers. That said, there's nothing wrong with the Lindberg '64 Plymouth/Dodge engines. If I remember correctly, that's the engine that I used in my '65 Fury build, with some modification of an intake from a Johan kit. Steve 3 1
espo Posted January 2 Posted January 2 On 1/1/2025 at 3:03 PM, lordairgtar said: I am ressurecting a 65 Imperial and I wish to locate a nice 413 in 1/25 scale. I have the original kit supplied engine but its kinda messed up with glue. Is there a kit that has that engine or a aftermarket supplier? Based on one of my old shop manuals, Motor Auto Repair dated 1967, the 413 in the Imperial was offered with two different horsepower ratings. They list one at 340 and the other at 360 hp. Since they both list having the same single 4 bbl carb., compression ratio the only differences maybe the cam timing and or the size of the carb. Any good-looking engine in the correct scale and representing a 383 thru a 426 wedge should work out.
lordairgtar Posted January 3 Author Posted January 3 Thanks everyone. I have the Lindberg engines and the valve covers in the original Imperial kit were chromed and the person who built it did not scrape the chrome so they came off easily. I can de-chrome them and paint. Now to find a suitable chassis for the car. Hoo boy this turned into a project. 1
blizzy63 Posted January 5 Posted January 5 (edited) 3 hours ago, bobss396 said: Wasn't the Mopar engine in the AMT '49 Mercury a 413? Yes. A 1962-63 Chrysler Ram Induction/Max Wedge 413/426. Edited January 5 by blizzy63 2
1972coronet Posted January 5 Posted January 5 I totally forgot about that engine ! Though its rocker arm covers aren't stock, they're quite unique and are nicely replicated.
bobss396 Posted January 6 Posted January 6 I'm "restoring" an OG 1949 Mercury now that has the 413 in it. It does build up nicely.
Carmak Posted January 6 Posted January 6 I also just started restoring a 65 Imperial rebuilder. Since I plan to retain the original metal axles I am going to use the original block and trans (nasty sink marks in the trans pan). I am using the heads, intake, manifolds, timing cover and other details from a Revell 69 Charger 440 on the original Imperial block (I had to cut off the original Imperial block's timing cover). Interesting that the Imperial had the fuel pump and something that was meant to resemble an oil filter molded to the block.
bobss396 Posted January 7 Posted January 7 This is the 413 in my current Mercury rebuild. I have done nothing to the engine, it was already decently build with wires added to it. 1
Steamboat Posted January 9 Posted January 9 I would use the Lindberg chassis as well. Revell 68-69 Charger and Johan C-body Chrysler or Plymouth are other options.
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