Making Door & Hood Hinges

[Csaba aka felhasznaaloo]

A remarkable build, Steve!

[ChopSauce]

I thought that (not mine at all) video was worth mentionning, for the case some of you didn't noticed it. Hinges start at around 8 min.

 

 

[peteski]

On 7/3/2023 at 2:44 AM, ChopSauce said:

I thought that (not mine at all) video was worth mentionning, for the case some of you didn't noticed it. Hinges start at around 8 min.

Very informative video, but you don't show how you "crimp" the "rivets" or "pins" on the hood hinges, so the hinge doesn't fall apart. That to me would be the most important part of the video.

You clearly show that you solder one end of the rivets to one part of the hinge, but then the hinge is shown to work, while staying together.  the video seems to show that also solder the other side of the hinge, but if you do use solder, how you prevent the other side of the soldered rivet joint from melting, or how you prevent the solder from sticking to the loose piece of the hinge (so it still pivots).  Or if you use another method of fastening the rived, what is it?

[ChopSauce]

Please note that I haven't shown nothing at all for this is not my video and I haven't made anything of it.

The question of how the cutted end of the pin is "locked" remains open as far as my understanding goes. Therefore I am happy that you are willing to discuss that.

So, you suggest that it is brazed (which may not work with chromed pins)?

I feel like I should be able to braze the cutted end of the pin to nothing more that the closest part of the hinges. The part of the hinges are very thin so they should store very little heat, making it easy to control which one would suck the solder - maybe?

That would be certainly more informative to ask directly as a comment to the video, for those who own a Google account.

Thank you very much for your interest, anyway!

 

 

Edited July 5, 2023 by ChopSauce

[peteski]

6 hours ago, ChopSauce said:

Please note that I haven't shown nothing at all for this is not my video and I haven't made anything of it.

I apologize. I don't know why I thought it was your video when you specifically mentioned that it was not.  I should leave a comment on YouTube for that video asking for the information I asked here.

[blunc]

On 7/2/2023 at 11:44 PM, ChopSauce said:

I thought that (not mine at all) video was worth mentionning, for the case some of you didn't noticed it. Hinges start at around 8 min.

 

The Youtube video link above is but one video in the A4 Garage channel on Youtube, there is no narration but there are occasional notes regarding materials used.

If you click the "Watch on Youtube" box, Youtube will open to the A4 Garage channel.

I have watched a few of the videos on the A4 Garage channel, each one shows techniques that are achievable by most builders, with a little patience, tools and supplies (I feel) a lot build process exhibited in the A4 Garage videos can be performed by any builder that chooses to build to this level.

I personally am not at this level yet, but seeing this builder's process demonstrated (along with things I have learned from this forum) gives me a great starting point for how to achieve my own builds.

I may have to acquire more tools and supplies.  ?

 

[OldNYJim]

I found this post by Bill, @Ace-Garageguy, whilst looking for something else, and it’s definitely worthy of reposting info THIS thread too - really useful tutorial on flipnose hinging:

 

[ChopSauce]

On 7/5/2023 at 4:00 PM, peteski said:

I apologize. I don't know why I thought it was your video when you specifically mentioned that it was not.  I should leave a comment on YouTube for that video asking for the information I asked here.

Hi Peter,

 

For I am (very) curious about it too: did you finally got the information about fixing the pin/axle?

 

I'm not sure if this can help but there's a video about the gluing techniques he uses, there :

 

May that help?

Edited August 26, 2023 by ChopSauce

[peteski]

6 hours ago, ChopSauce said:

For I am (very) curious about it too: did you finally got the information about fixing the pin/axle?

No, I didn't. To be honest I got sidetracked on other projects.

[1930fordpickup]

On 7/4/2023 at 12:53 PM, peteski said:

Very informative video, but you don't show how you "crimp" the "rivets" or "pins" on the hood hinges, so the hinge doesn't fall apart. That to me would be the most important part of the video.

You clearly show that you solder one end of the rivets to one part of the hinge, but then the hinge is shown to work, while staying together.  the video seems to show that also solder the other side of the hinge, but if you do use solder, how you prevent the other side of the soldered rivet joint from melting, or how you prevent the solder from sticking to the loose piece of the hinge (so it still pivots).  Or if you use another method of fastening the rived, what is it?

The hinges are clearly soldered, but you are right he does not show us that trick, to stop the solder from running.  I am going to guess and say he just uses what is on the top if the iron from the last pin he solders.

[blunc]

as seen in the video, he solders the top and bottom hinges to the pivot rod, he almost always shows exactly what he uses for metal parts, usually nickel plated or straight nickel which can be soldered without too much fuss.

[TopherMcGinnis]

There are lots of great How-To instructions in this thread! I'm definitely going to employee hinges in future builds! 

I came to a wall with hinging suicide doors on a '66 Chevy truck. I tried a few different versions of hinges, but kept running into the door and body rubbing due to the shape of the body. I didn't see any references to opening the doors on this style truck anywhere. How do I overcome this obstacle? 

[peteski]

Usually vehicles of that time with a unusual shape of the body had their doors swing open to the outside of the body.  Your first idea should work.

As I see it, you have to move the hinge point (the tubing) closer to the door opening's edge. The loops might also have to be larger (to increase the swing diameter.  You will also likely have to thin the door's inner surface at the hinged edge.

The fact that this is a suicide hinging does not matter.  Since the sculpted body has the same shape at the front of the door, you would have the same problem with front-hinged door.

[randx0]

I think you might have to build the door jambs and probably at least one part of the hinge will have to be on the jamb portion . I couldn't find any videos on how or where the pivot point is on the real truck . But they are supposed to swing in , not out and away . 

[randx0]

On 12/9/2024 at 6:11 AM, TopherMcGinnis said:

How do I overcome this obstacle? 

 

Edited January 7 by randx0
I tried responding to this not realizing how old it was

[TopherMcGinnis]

4 hours ago, randx0 said:

 

Thank you for your suggestion. I'm still planning to finish this one. I just took a break for a bit.

[DerekV]

On 12/9/2024 at 4:22 PM, peteski said:

Usually vehicles of that time with a unusual shape of the body had their doors swing open to the outside of the body.  Your first idea should work.  

As I see it, you have to move the hinge point (the tubing) closer to the door opening's edge. The loops might also have to be larger (to increase the swing diameter.  You will also likely have to thin the door's inner surface at the hinged edge. The full review is here

The fact that this is a suicide hinging does not matter.  Since the sculpted body has the same shape at the front of the door, you would have the same problem with front-hinged door.

 The jamb must be strong enough to support the load of the door

Edited January 20 by DerekV

[blunc]

On 12/9/2024 at 5:11 AM, TopherMcGinnis said:

There are lots of great How-To instructions in this thread! I'm definitely going to employee hinges in future builds! 

I came to a wall with hinging suicide doors on a '66 Chevy truck. I tried a few different versions of hinges, but kept running into the door and body rubbing due to the shape of the body. I didn't see any references to opening the doors on this style truck anywhere. How do I overcome this obstacle? 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Since the profile of the door is the same on the front and the rear edges of the door, I would try to find photos of the real hinges to see how they are shaped/mounted and then see if I could make that work in scale.