ian ashton Posted January 9, 2011 Posted January 9, 2011 (edited) Seems like the only options for the Slant 6 are to buy a Lindberg kit or a Ross Gibson engine. Being that the 440s and Hemis are in just about every kit, I figured this would be a good engine to start with. I've finished most of the molds. Basically will come with: -Engine, head, valve cover, oil pan, and water pump as a single piece -intake manifold -exhaust manifold -belt and fan -starter -carb -oil pump Details I've left out and the reasoning behind it is as follows: -Fuel Pump: It can't really be seen amd is super small, I'll may add it, not sure 100% -Distributor: I figured most people will do a pre-wired, so no sense in casting something that gets tossed anyway. -Alternator: its virtually the same as every other Mopar dizzy, so it can be easily pulled from whatever kit your going to put the engine into. -Valve Cover Breather: Depending on the year and displacement the breather is different, and again super small and easy to pirate from your kit or parts bin. -Motor Mounts: They are going to be different for all of the difference cars, so no real way to make a generic mount. Looking at $7 for the engine, $8 for engine and 727 trans (manual in the works, I have the master and the mold, just not sure about the finished product yet.) Thoughts? Edited January 10, 2011 by ian ashton
Chuck Most Posted January 9, 2011 Posted January 9, 2011 There are a few other Slant sixes out there in plastic and resin, but I think it would be a good product to have in your line. The modeling hobby needs more inline sixes of all kinds!
ian ashton Posted January 10, 2011 Author Posted January 10, 2011 Here is the first pour of the engine/head/vc/oil pan:
ChrisPflug Posted January 10, 2011 Posted January 10, 2011 Does the valve cover have the early-style "ribs" like the stock Lindberg engine? Would be interested in a couple, but making the valve cover "smooth" (and correct for a late 60's-70s application) would save me a step How about an air cleaner (similar to the Lindberg but with the "square" snorkel?
ian ashton Posted January 10, 2011 Author Posted January 10, 2011 It is the Lindberg slant 6, lol. I left the ribs on for versatility, as they are easier to sand off than add back. Air cleaner is a possibility, still working on the details.
Foxer Posted January 10, 2011 Posted January 10, 2011 (edited) I love "slants" ... my five water cooled Porsches were all "slant 4's" I got the Lindberg kit just for the slant 6! Something to think about when this gets going would be some hot rod parts for it. I believe Chrysler offered these in an engine upgrade even. Edited January 10, 2011 by Foxer
dimaxion Posted January 10, 2011 Posted January 10, 2011 I love "slants" ... my five water cooled Porsches were all "slant 4's" I got the Lindberg kit just for the slant 6! Something to think about when this gets going would be some hot rod parts for it. I believe Chrysler offered these in an engine upgrade even. The Hot Rod parts you refer to are the "Hyper Pac" offered as an Option during MYs ;'62-'63-'64 . Including a Not Street Cam . An aluminum block , intake , oil pan , valve and front cover . A Carter AFB and a split exhaust header . The Header is of two "W"s into a "Y" configuration into a single pipe . These cars were not ment to be used on the street . Only at Sanctioned Competition Tracks . I believe these pieces are in the Lindurg Kit . Tha amazing part was : warnings about adding Glycol Based Antifreeze . One on the Glove box door . TWO in the service manual . One on the Core Support . Stating never add this as serious damage will occur . Across town , GM was stuffing the new Glycol Base Antifreeze into the Buick V/6s ans V/8s . Is it any wonder they had to drop the names Slylark and Skyhawk . These aluminum Engines would melt down into the coolant , go to the radiator abd condense into a solid again . Clog up the radiator , overheat the engines and drop the Steel cylinder liners into the crankshaft . Most owners this happened to as the blue overheat light came on too late . What did Chrysler know that GM didn't ? LOL . BTW , it looks like a good casting . Thanx ..
ChrisPflug Posted January 10, 2011 Posted January 10, 2011 Hyper Pack was a setup available over the counter for racing and not on option on any production car- wild cam, long runner intake (much longer runners than a "normal" aftermarket 4 barrel intake) and headers The die cast aluminum block was a first year experiment intended for light, economy use (think the new Valiant)rather than performance. In fact the aluminum blocks were considered fragile enough to be avoided for performance use
dougp Posted January 11, 2011 Posted January 11, 2011 I'd be interested in the slant 6. Currenty working on 2 71 duster projects, one with an 06 hemi and the other with a performance slant 6. I've got two engines to work from right now, a deora slant 6 and the hyper pack slant 6, not real happy with either and I like the detail on yours much better. I'm willing to postpone the one until you have them available. Please keep us advised.
spkgibson Posted January 11, 2011 Posted January 11, 2011 You have to do this Ian, I have a bunch of A-bodys missing the slant 6s, I would rather order a few from you then have to pay $18 for the Linberg kits just for the engines , Let me know when you have those ready.
Rob Hall Posted January 11, 2011 Posted January 11, 2011 I'd be interested in one or two, esp. with the distributor and air cleaner. I have a few from Lindberg kits to use in various cars, but can use another or two..
Nick Winter Posted January 11, 2011 Posted January 11, 2011 Dang I need one of these to go with the rest of your products I have don't need it yet though so for now don't put me down for one. Nick Still waiting on my Monaco so I can start my project using your steelies and 727, and well the drum brake wheel back and well the 8 3/4 rear end
spkgibson Posted January 11, 2011 Posted January 11, 2011 Dang I need one of these to go with the rest of your products I have don't need it yet though so for now don't put me down for one. Nick Still waiting on my Monaco so I can start my project using your steelies and 727, and well the drum brake wheel back and well the 8 3/4 rear end What way are doing the Monaco Nick? Send me a PM
Casey Posted January 11, 2011 Posted January 11, 2011 I suggest you make a Super Six 2-bbl intake manifold (and its slightly larger air cleaner assembly), and the aforementioned Hyper Pak 4-bbl intake, too. A Slant Six header would be a good idea, too, even if it's a semi-generic 4-2-1 type.
ian ashton Posted January 11, 2011 Author Posted January 11, 2011 Thanks for all the direction, I'll definitely work on these ideas. First up will be the stock engine, sounds like the air cleaner will be a must, I'll keep you guys posted
dimaxion Posted January 11, 2011 Posted January 11, 2011 Hyper Pack was a setup available over the counter for racing and not on option on any production car- wild cam, long runner intake (much longer runners than a "normal" aftermarket 4 barrel intake) and headers The die cast aluminum block was a first year experiment intended for light, economy use (think the new Valiant)rather than performance. In fact the aluminum blocks were considered fragile enough to be avoided for performance use These engines were rated 225 HP from 225 CID . The Aluminum blocks were tough enough . The Glycol Coolant was the enemy . I serviced an Early Production '62 Valiant . It had the Hyper Pac . I snickered at the Engine . When I was done , the owner insisted I take for a short spin . I changed my mind and was impressed . He bought the car so equipped . It had dual exhausts along with the rest of the package . It is who you know and who you are . Just like today . Thanx ..
Rob Z Posted January 12, 2011 Posted January 12, 2011 (edited) Ian, looks really nice, like some here I too would like to see some speed parts for the slant 6. I currently don't know of anyone producing them but, have seen some looking for the Hyper Pack parts... Only my opinion... Edited January 12, 2011 by Rob Z
ian ashton Posted January 13, 2011 Author Posted January 13, 2011 Alright, I've got the base kit posted up on my site and they are ready to ship! More pics will be posted in the next few days. $7 for the engine kit, $8 with a 727 Automatic Transmission Model Car Designs Slant 6 The kit includes: Single piece Engine, Oil Pan, Head, Valve Cover, Water PumpIntake ManifoldExhaust ManifoldFuel PumpCarburatorFan BeltFanOil Pump & FilterDistributorStarter
ian ashton Posted January 13, 2011 Author Posted January 13, 2011 The complete engine kit, cast in white: Packaged and ready for consumption, lol:
charlie8575 Posted January 16, 2011 Posted January 16, 2011 Very nice, Ian. More than even bet an order will be forthcoming from me as well. Charlie Larkin
Eshaver Posted January 18, 2011 Posted January 18, 2011 Ian , to answer the question , yes ! A chrysler 6 would look period within my Crown station I'm working on now . I just need to get the finances straightened out currently ! Ed Shaver
slantasaurus Posted January 21, 2011 Posted January 21, 2011 Just so everyone knows, the trans in this (and the Lindberg kit) is a 904 Torqueflight. Chrysler never made a Slant 6 727 Torqueflight, although in Dodge trucks you could get a Slant with a 727, it was a small block bolt pattern with an adapter plate to mate with the Slant bolt pattern. Also Ian, if you need any reference pics of the Hyper Pack intake I have a Clifford repro and can provide pics and measurements.
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