larrygre Posted March 25, 2007 Posted March 25, 2007 Hey all - I've been told that normal thinners - mineral spirits, Testors Airbrush thinner, etc. - do not work with the new House of Kolor model paints. I picked up a whole mess of them at NNL East and am anxious to try the stuff. What do you use to thin it, if not their own thinner? Thanks!
MrObsessive Posted March 25, 2007 Posted March 25, 2007 Hey Larry this is a shot in the dark since I haven't used HOK paints............Why not try using acetone? Acetone can be picked up cheap at your local hardware store, and it's what I use to thin and clean up Alclad paints which is pretty hot stuff. I also use it to thin acrylic enamels when needed. Lacquer thinner may work also, but it doesn't seem to "wash" as well as acetone. It's worth a shot! :wink:
Whiplash Posted March 26, 2007 Posted March 26, 2007 larry....I have used Model Master airbrush thinner to thin the "kandy's" or transparents they sell and it worked just fine. I shot some of their gloss black doing the same and it worked good. You might also be able to thin them with acrylic lacquer thinner, I have thinned model master enamels with it before with no problem. Just make sure your primer is lacquer.
hookedonplastics Posted March 26, 2007 Posted March 26, 2007 Here is some info from the H.O.K site: DO NOT USE OTHER COMPANY'S HARDENERS, REDUCERS OR THINNERS IN OUR PRODUCTS. REDUCERS Reducers for Kosmic Kolor® Urethane Enamel & SHIMRIN® Universal Bases: Our Kosmic Reducers - Ru-300 EXEMPT, RU-310 FAST DRY, RU-311 MEDIUM DRY, RU-312 SLOW DRY - are the only reducers we recommend for use with our Kosmic Kolor Urethane Enamel system. Used in the base, Kandy and clear coats, our reducers allow for: excellent sprayability fast staged release good flow out and leveling retention of gloss when dry NOTE: Even with over reduction, the paint retains its gloss. Other reducers may cause dulling. This is especially true when any amount of over reduction has been attempted to even metallics or increase flow out. THINNERS Thinners for Kustom Kolor® Acrylic Lacquers: Our Kustom Thinners 101 HI-GLOSS and 202 FAST DRY are the finest thinners you can buy at any price. The thinner carries the paint to the surface, then evaporates from the paint film. The way the thinner leaves the film determines the flow, tack free time, consistency, shrinkage, leveling, dry time, tape, time and final gloss. Choose the thinner best suited to your shop conditions and the size of the object to be sprayed. Our Thinners are- not cross referenced by any other paint company. Just thought I would post this so you wont waste any time or paint! 8)
Marc @ MPC Motorsports Posted March 26, 2007 Posted March 26, 2007 Hey all - I've been told that normal thinners - mineral spirits, Testors Airbrush thinner, etc. - do not work with the new House of Kolor model paints. I picked up a whole mess of them at NNL East and am anxious to try the stuff. What do you use to thin it, if not their own thinner? Thanks! I would use Gunze Mr. Color thinner if you have access to it. My LHS carries it and I use it to thin the real HOK paints, so it should work with this stuff as well. The Kustom Kolors thinner is stupid expensive, just like all hobby thinners. Mr. Color is not as "hot" as generic lacquer thinner, and works wonders on styrene.
bobss396 Posted March 27, 2007 Posted March 27, 2007 I'm with Marc Nellis, Mr. Color thinner works for me. I've also used 1:1 auto body thinner, acrylic lacquer thinner. Which is pretty much what all the auto body supply stores carry. Bob
ramonesblues Posted March 27, 2007 Posted March 27, 2007 Lacquer thinner works fine. just get a fast drying thinner, the slower drying thinners are way too hot for plastic. R&M PNT62 is a fast dry thinner that will work good on models. I've used it extensively as a pro painter. Acetone will work, but flashes off very quickly,so dryness or overspray might be a problem till you get the hang of it.
Jerry Steinbacher Posted March 31, 2007 Posted March 31, 2007 I have discovered that Pactra RC 95 Lacqer Thinner for their Racing Finishes line works very well for reducing HOK paints and then I clean up with regular lacquer thinner. I hope this helps.
Jairus Posted March 31, 2007 Posted March 31, 2007 Here is the best Acrylic Lacquer thinner money can buy and what I use to thin the HOC paint! 8)
GTmike400 Posted April 1, 2007 Posted April 1, 2007 Here is the best Acrylic Lacquer thinner money can buy and what I use to thin the HOC paint! 8) Best thinner for acryl-lacquer in my book period.
JPolli Posted April 17, 2007 Posted April 17, 2007 I agree. The PPG Durcryl is good stuff. I have used it with HOK with good results
Modelmartin Posted April 18, 2007 Posted April 18, 2007 Interesting! I used some Dupont thinner in my decanted Shimrins Candy tangerine and it sprayed real nice. It ended up flat but I always clear my paint with some PPG clear and that went on fine and polished well. I will likely switch to PPG thinner when my Dupont runs out.
ismaelg Posted April 18, 2007 Posted April 18, 2007 But if you call in the next 10 minutes, we'll DOUBLE your order!!!!! No, QUADRUPLE IT! That's right! This is a $800 value, yours for ONLY $19.95 CALL NOW!!! Sorry couldn't resist I agree. This is the best thinner out there period. I bought this gallon about 2 years ago and it's still about halfway. I think it was about $23.00 Thanks,
Jairus Posted April 18, 2007 Posted April 18, 2007 A gallon can won't fit on my crowded drawing board....
Marc @ MPC Motorsports Posted April 18, 2007 Posted April 18, 2007 I seem somewhat confused(which for me is not hard to do at all).Are we talking about the House of Colors paint that is used on 1:1 cars or the new Kustom Kolors paint for models. :? I believe that Larry Greenberg's original question was about "Kustom Kolors by the makers of HOK", not GENUINE HOK paint. I'm pretty sure all the thinners mentioned here will work fine on either.
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