2003 Heritage Camaro Z28 WIP paint update

[Privateer]

I have been working on this car for some time now. My customer wants a duplicate of the 2003 Heritage Camaro, the real thing can be seen here.

http://www.2002firehawk-c26.net/HeritageFBody.html

My customer purchased the body from a resin manufacture that I will not name here, but it was awful. It is a widebody Camaro that has all the features of the real Camaro being replicated but it had so many problems it was almost unusable. I used the Revell 35th Anniverserary Camaro kit as a donor. I had to remove the resin bodies roof and splice the the roof and A pillars from the Revell kit because the A pillars had so much extra resin molded in, that there was no way the winshield could fit. The hood was way to thick to be usable, so I cut the cowl hood scoop out and blended it into the kit hood. The front of the car was also to thick so I had to remove a section of the nose from the turn signals up so that the headlight buckets would fit . The rear spoiler required tons of fitting and sanding in order for it to fit. I don't mean to bash anybody, thats why I won't mentioned who cast this body, but I am glad my money didn't go to this caster. Any way here are some pics of where I am now. It took tons of work to get this far and it needs tons more. Decals are to be custom made.

[Jairus]

Charles,

Yeah, we all have a lot of work to do after purchasing a new kit or resin body. Never seems like the product fits our desires. But that is what makes this a hobby. Otherwise we would be satisfied with buying an already done and painted die cast. But I have to wonder why you complain about having to make changes to something… when that is what this hobby is all about? Are you expecting these things to come out of the box pre-painted? A lot of the work, the wide body for instance, is already done for you. Otherwise, you and I would have probably started with a basic plastic kit and done all the hard work our selves. Lets keep the complaining and negativity out of the forum please.

Resin bodies will never be produced in as nice a quality as a molded plastic body. This is generally because each and every one is hand made!

Oh and another thing, you started with a body that was never intended to be built as a fully detailed car. It was suppose to be built curbside my friend….

I do however, look forward to seeing your progress on what looks to be a cool street machine!

[Privateer]

Charles,

Yeah, we all have a lot of work to do after purchasing a new kit or resin body. Never seems like the product fits our desires. But that is what makes this a hobby. Otherwise we would be satisfied with buying an already done and painted die cast. But I have to wonder why you complain about having to make changes to something… when that is what this hobby is all about? Are you expecting these things to come out of the box pre-painted? A lot of the work, the wide body for instance, is already done for you. Otherwise, you and I would have probably started with a basic plastic kit and done all the hard work our selves. Lets keep the complaining and negativity out of the forum please.

Resin bodies will never be produced in as nice a quality as a molded plastic body. This is generally because each and every one is hand made!

Oh and another thing, you started with a body that was never intended to be built as a fully detailed car. It was suppose to be built curbside my friend….

I do however, look forward to seeing your progress on what looks to be a cool street machine!

My comments were not meant to be of a negative nature. I was really just trying to explain the work that was required to get to where I was. If it seemed that way then I am sorry. I am no stranger to resin, when quality is found I make comments about that as well. Check my thread about the bugZapper funny car in drag racing.

[crispy]

Charles, Interesting project!

I'm more curious about the wheels. What are they and who makes them?

Thanks!

Chris

[halfpint33]

Charles,

Yeah, we all have a lot of work to do after purchasing a new kit or resin body. Never seems like the product fits our desires. But that is what makes this a hobby. Otherwise we would be satisfied with buying an already done and painted die cast. But I have to wonder why you complain about having to make changes to something… when that is what this hobby is all about? Are you expecting these things to come out of the box pre-painted? A lot of the work, the wide body for instance, is already done for you. Otherwise, you and I would have probably started with a basic plastic kit and done all the hard work our selves. Lets keep the complaining and negativity out of the forum please.

Resin bodies will never be produced in as nice a quality as a molded plastic body. This is generally because each and every one is hand made!

Oh and another thing, you started with a body that was never intended to be built as a fully detailed car. It was suppose to be built curbside my friend….

I do however, look forward to seeing your progress on what looks to be a cool street machine!

Well I really don't see what was so negative in his comment either.I mean he didn't name any names of the maker of it.Plus if someone gets something that is not what they feel is a decent product I would like to know anyhow.I don't have a wealth of money to throw to sub-standard modeling products.

I too look foward to seeing the completion of this build.

[ismaelg]

Now THAT is a cool mean MODERN ride! I love where this is going. Will keep an eye on this...

Thanks,

[Reliable Resin]

Hummmmmmmmm

I didn't have any problem what so ever Building mine here

Mock Up in our Old White Resin

Got a lil' Creative w/ the YSC Decals & Color

I went w/ a Larger Hood Bulge

Note that the Stock kit Body & all the under cuts were a Huge Challenge

to make a Mold of , after 100's of Hours of Modifing the Bodies Correct Curves & Accents

Vertebrally Impossible to cast a Mold w/ that Cowl Cross Member Piece w/ that Dash Board TAB .......

However I did Cut the Cross Section out of the Stk Plastic Kit Body w/o any problems what so ever & sectioned it in w/ Decent Resluts

However , I didn't seem to any problems w/ this Casting

* Guess it's true what they say:

" It's not the Tools , it's the Technician ! "

[Jairus]

Gary and Mark.

I am not defending anything Don does. If he wants to ###### on this forum then he will be banned just like anyone else!

Charles first post had quite a few little JABS at the “unnamed resin casterâ€. I see this as just another opportunity for the trouble makers now haunting this forum to leap into action and create a new multi-page screed on the evils of resin casting. I will not allow it! If Charles only stated the changes he had to make then there would be no problem. But using loaded phrases like “it was awful†and “almost unusable†and “glad my money didn’t go to this casterâ€!! This is NOT a helpful description for anyone wanting to build this car. I don’t know what message you guys were reading but I SEE the intent behind the words because I am a writer!

Mark, I was going to remove the jab that Don posted toward Charles but now that you felt it important to “QUOTE†him and thus draw a circle around it for everyone else to see, then it stays! Way to go buddy.

I am watching this thread and if it continues down the wrong path it will be closed! However, I am interested in seeing what Charles does to this car so let’s hope that is not necessary.

[Darin Bastedo]

A pessimist see's a half empty glass, The optomist see's a half full glass, and a realist see's a glass that is twice as big as it needs to be.

Charles, that is a fine looking model you are building, and I can see by how it looks today that it will be even better when it is finished. I understand you frustration with all the work you had to do to make the resin look like you wanted it. But you would have had to do even more work had your customer brought you a stock Camaro. I'm just looking on the bright side here.

I can tell by looking at this body that it would be a tough one to cast especially with that dashboard tab. (as an aside I can where the stock Camaro would be just as tough to injection mold.)

As far as anyone questioning you talent I, I can say you've done nice work so far ,and you should take pride in the fact that a few pit falls didn't stop you building what appears to be a really cool build. I do have a few questions though...

1. Are you going to replicate the graphics of the car at your link, and if so does someone alreay make the decals or will you be doing them your self?

2. I know the wheels and tires are pretty wide, are the fenders wide enoughto cover them on the stock chassis or will you/have you done modifications to it? are these wheels the ones you will be using or will they be closer to the ones on the prototype?

3. will you be doing the interior too or will it be stock?

Inquiring minds want to know. Like I said I think this will build into a fine model, and I hope to see progress shots on it. I'm hoping to do one of these soon.

[Privateer]

A pessimist see's a half empty glass, The optomist see's a half full glass, and a realist see's a glass that is twice as big as it needs to be.

Charles, that is a fine looking model you are building, and I can see by how it looks today that it will be even better when it is finished. I understand you frustration with all the work you had to do to make the resin look like you wanted it. But you would have had to do even more work had your customer brought you a stock Camaro. I'm just looking on the bright side here.

I can tell by looking at this body that it would be a tough one to cast especially with that dashboard tab. (as an aside I can where the stock Camaro would be just as tough to injection mold.)

As far as anyone questioning you talent I, I can say you've done nice work so far ,and you should take pride in the fact that a few pit falls didn't stop you building what appears to be a really cool build. I do have a few questions though...

1. Are you going to replicate the graphics of the car at your link, and if so does someone alreay make the decals or will you be doing them your self?

2. I know the wheels and tires are pretty wide, are the fenders wide enoughto cover them on the stock chassis or will you/have you done modifications to it? are these wheels the ones you will be using or will they be closer to the ones on the prototype?

3. will you be doing the interior too or will it be stock?

Inquiring minds want to know. Like I said I think this will build into a fine model, and I hope to see progress shots on it. I'm hoping to do one of these soon.

Thanks from everyone on the positive comments about the build. To answer the questions:

I will be replicating the graphics of the real car. I have contacted Bullring Graphics about printing these up.

The fenders are wide enough to cover the wide tires, these are not the exact wheels that I will use, but unless I find an exact match to the real wheel I will use something similar , as to my customers wishes.

I will be duplicating the real cars interior as much as I can see in the pics. Including the roll cage, dash modifications seats etc.

I also have started on the engine as well, I am kit bashing the injection system. I will post pics as soon as it progresses.

[Reliable Resin]

Here's another perspective

Half full ....... Half empty ..........either way

It's a Glass of Water ........and to a thirsty man ...it's Refreshment !

A wise man once said .............

"Water always seeks it's level " :idea:

[crispy]

*tap* *tap* *tap*

is this thing working???

I was curious about the wheels and tires being used? Any insights? Resin cast? After-market's?

Chris

[Darin Bastedo]

*tap* *tap* *tap*

is this thing working???

I was curious about the wheels and tires being used? Any insights? Resin cast? After-market's?

Chris

If I'm not mistaken the wheels are from the Tamiya Porsche 911 GT2

[crispy]

Thanks Darin, I'll have to look at my kit, but I think you are right.

[Enzoenvy1]

If I'm not mistaken the wheels are from the Tamiya Porsche 911 GT2

Correct sir!

[Privateer]

It is painted. It has 4 coats of Tamiya Mica blue over a black basecoat, and about 6 coats of clear.

[novadose71]

Lookin good. Keep it comin'

[Privateer]

Here is where I am with the engine. I parts bashed an injector to look like the real thing, added plug wires, and detail with paint using dry brushing and washes. More detail will be added during the last stages of the build.

[m408]

Just getting back into modeling and can't believe the bitching about kits, resin or plastic. If you want some real agrivation, try to build some 1:1s as I have. Smoothing out a few extra mm of plastic or resin is nothing when you have had to match a 49" cad eleceric sun roof to a 33" chevy sedan, or sectioning and chopping a 49" merc sedan. The scratch builders will know what I'm talking about. If you are not happy with a product that you have purchased, do what I do, don't re-buy.

[cruz]

Very nice paint and choice of color, I have been trying to get this model, not because it's difficult but because I have been kinda training myself to stop buying more models but after seeing yours I will definetly be buying this one...........

[1badz28]

i am the customer that this car was being built for. has anyone seen charles on lately? because i havent heard from him for over a year about my car. ive tried his web page but the email isnt working and his private email and phone are useless as well.

mike