66belair Posted December 11, 2011 Posted December 11, 2011 Hi everyone I'm new to posting on this site.I was wondering if anyone knows if someone is doing a 70-72 Cutlass Supreme hardtop body for the excellent Revell kit?
VW Dave Posted December 14, 2011 Posted December 14, 2011 Most people are doing the conversion themselves for now, using the roof from an AMT '70 Monte Carlo and the Revell '72 Cutlass
Eshaver Posted December 23, 2011 Posted December 23, 2011 Hummmmmmmmmmm, a fine money makin enterprise , just a wastin...................... Ed Shaver
The70judgeman Posted February 16, 2012 Posted February 16, 2012 If you wait a little longer into 2012...IMC(Illinois Model Company), I think, is going to start reproducing old Johan kits. The '70 Olds 442 may be among the kits reproduced. One can only hope. I'd love to have one myself...it was a decent kit. Had one a long time ago.
Chuck Most Posted February 17, 2012 Posted February 17, 2012 Keep your eyes peeled on eBay and old kit vendors websites- you see the JoHan '70 fastback hardtop pop up every so often, and the prices on them usually aren't too bad. I think it's a foregone conclusion Revell will do a hardtop '72 Cutlass kit at some point in the future- that's about the only reason I can think that no resin caster has taken up the task of casting such an animal. In the meantime, as was mentioned, you can make your own by grafting on a roof from an AMT '70 Monte Carlo, or, if you want the 'fastback' roof, an MPC/AMT '69 or a JoHan '70.
Casey Posted February 17, 2012 Posted February 17, 2012 (edited) if you want the far better looking of the two hardtops, the 'fastback' roof, use an MPC/AMT '69 or a JoHan '70. Fixed it for ya. It is a bit surprising neither the notchback nor fastback hardtop bodies are yet available in resin. Edited February 17, 2012 by Casey
Cory22 Posted February 17, 2012 Posted February 17, 2012 I just didthe 72 olds Cutless Supreme Custom 2 n 1 and it was a fun car for my first one definetly got me hooked !
Chuck Most Posted February 17, 2012 Posted February 17, 2012 Fixed it for ya. It is a bit surprising neither the notchback nor fastback hardtop bodies are yet available in resin. Well, I can fully understand why that repugnant hatchback....er...fastback thing hasn't been done yet. It just looks awful next to that classy formal roof line. FIXED!!!!
Casey Posted February 17, 2012 Posted February 17, 2012 we are working on it at missing link! Which one? Or both?
Chuck Most Posted February 17, 2012 Posted February 17, 2012 Which one? I do hope its not that dreadful fastback!!!! Same here!
my66s55 Posted February 18, 2012 Posted February 18, 2012 I have the Testers Model Master 1970 HT with red line tires and real steel wheels which I picked up on ebay about 10 years ago. Every once in a while one comes up on there.
Casey Posted February 18, 2012 Posted February 18, 2012 Same here! Foiled again. I'm assuming the existing convertible, the fastback, and a formal hardtop would all require different interior platforms, or at least different package trays for the two hardtops. I can't find images of the 'vert platform on the forum anymore (Len's review no linger contians images and I don't see the Kit Reviews images on the main page anymore?), but I'm guessing it has a proper convertible rear seat area, which would nees to be changed for a hardtop.
Chuck Most Posted February 18, 2012 Posted February 18, 2012 Different side panels and rear seat, from the looks of things. Even so, I don't think it would be much effort/expense on Revell's part to kit the hardtop, no matter which version.
Art Anderson Posted February 19, 2012 Posted February 19, 2012 (edited) Different side panels and rear seat, from the looks of things. Even so, I don't think it would be much effort/expense on Revell's part to kit the hardtop, no matter which version. Check me if I'm wrong here, but isn't the '72 Cutlass Supreme HT a physically longer wheelbase car than the regular Cutlass fastback? Art Edited February 19, 2012 by Art Anderson
charlie8575 Posted February 20, 2012 Posted February 20, 2012 all the 2-door Cutlass' should be a 112" w/b if i remember right. the 4-doors and wagons had a longer wheelbase, 116" or something like that. Don't forget the Vista Cruiser, which used a 120" wheelbase. Charlie Larkin
Eshaver Posted February 20, 2012 Posted February 20, 2012 Both Charlie and David are correct on the wheelbase debacle . Making a Hardtop out of a Convertable while doable is difficult as the Quarter panels were two distintly different stampings . Ed Shaver
Fabrux Posted February 21, 2012 Posted February 21, 2012 Here's the Cutlass hardtop, convertible, and fastback. Looks like the quarters are pretty darn close (if not the same) for the hardtop and convertible. And here's a comparison of the 72 Cutlass with the 70-72 Monte Carlo. The roofline is very close, differing only in slope and then only a slight amount. The quarter windows are also different shapes, but when using the Monte Carlo roof on the Cutlass body you'll get that shape. When I get a hold of a Monte Carlo I'll start cutting and maybe do a writeup.
Casey Posted February 21, 2012 Posted February 21, 2012 Ron Hamilton had a pretty nicely done OTW post regarding the notchback he modified and built: http://www.modelcarsmag.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=26965
Ron Hamilton Posted February 23, 2012 Posted February 23, 2012 (edited) Thank you for your kind comments. It was not an easy conversion, but I think it came out pretty good. I may do another one, but as a standard Cutlass Supreme, with a full vinyl roof, whitewalls, 350, and a split bench seat. I am also going to do a '71 or '72 442, or Cutlass S Holiday Coupe, as I have a Louvered Hood (from an old promo). Edited February 23, 2012 by Ron Hamilton
rickcaps55 Posted February 24, 2012 Posted February 24, 2012 Hi Guys. You can get The louvered hood that he talks about at modelhaus I got one because I to am looking to do a hard top.The hood is just a bit short on the sides but a small pice of plastic stripping from evergreen will fix it right up it,s a nice hood with the imprint on the underside.I is realy for the old Johan kits to make them a 71 or 72 they also have the chrome.I was going to do the roof thing but if Missing link is doing it I will wate for them I have got a lot of there kits and they are A-1.Rick.
ARTEMIS1759 Posted February 24, 2012 Posted February 24, 2012 (edited) Yeah, I was so happy that they had a Cutlass (my fav muscle car of all time) and then wham, I pick it up and see its a 'vert. So needless to say I don't have it yet. I think it would have been a better seller as a W30 442 HT. I guess I like the fastback though. But if they did the formal roof it would be a little easier to convert. Edited February 24, 2012 by ARTEMIS1759
ARTEMIS1759 Posted February 24, 2012 Posted February 24, 2012 (edited) Then again I didn't think of it you could bash a 70 Chevelle body because the Chevelle, GTO and Cutlass have the same main body for the most part. So in sequence GTO, Cutlass, and Chevelle. So maybe on that behalf cross a chevellr body with a back halved monte roof? From the doors back? Maybe like my poor photoshop. Edited February 24, 2012 by ARTEMIS1759
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