fseva Posted May 20, 2015 Posted May 20, 2015 was this a Johan kit? That's what I thought at first, but IMC is on the box and that company became affiliated with AMT, I believe... maybe we'll get some historical background on it. This kit may be a very old tool, but when I was a young'in, my family owned one of these in pink!
Jon Cole Posted May 20, 2015 Posted May 20, 2015 Cut out and swap sides on that C pillar, and it might not look so odd.
gbdolfans Posted May 20, 2015 Posted May 20, 2015 I will get at least 1.Hope it comes with all the extras the old one came with!! :wub:
peekay Posted May 20, 2015 Posted May 20, 2015 I hope they do the glass clear and not green like the last Johan re-issue. Realistically tinted glass in models would be great (as long as they didn't do headlight glass etc. on the same tree) but on my Rambler it's way too green.
Ace-Garageguy Posted May 20, 2015 Posted May 20, 2015 (edited) Gasser....or a very odd pro-touring model. Edited May 20, 2015 by Ace-Garageguy
Rob Hall Posted May 20, 2015 Posted May 20, 2015 That's what I thought at first, but IMC is on the box and that company became affiliated with AMT, I believe... maybe we'll get some historical background on it. This kit may be a very old tool, but when I was a young'in, my family owned one of these in pink! The IMC is from the failed effort a couple years ago to issue this and the Johan 75 Cutlass. Nothing to do with the old IMC .
Chuck Most Posted May 21, 2015 Posted May 21, 2015 Juha Airio (Pretty sure I bungled the spelling) did a conversion- not only to a sedan, but backdated to a '56. http://public.fotki.com/Rikster/model_cars/model_cars_from_others/models_by_juha_airio-1/1967_rambler/
Rob Hall Posted May 21, 2015 Posted May 21, 2015 Juha Airio (Pretty sure I bungled the spelling) did a conversion- not only to a sedan, but backdated to a '56. http://public.fotki.com/Rikster/model_cars/model_cars_from_others/models_by_juha_airio-1/1967_rambler/ That sedan rear window kind of looks like a 50s windshield of some sort..
Chuck Most Posted May 21, 2015 Posted May 21, 2015 Could be. The 2003 Johan reissue suggest using the windshield from their '56 Pontiac as the rear window for a sedan conversion, IIRC. I thought there were some in-progress photos of the '56 conversion, but I couldn't find them, so he well could have done something similar.
MrObsessive Posted May 22, 2015 Posted May 22, 2015 Juha uses clear stencil sheet (acetate) for his windows---pretty much what I use if the glass is not too complicated with compound curves and such. Looks MUCH better optically, and frankly just plain more realistic than the standard kit glass.
John Goschke Posted May 22, 2015 Posted May 22, 2015 (edited) was this a Johan kit? It was originally a Johan promo, never released by them as a kit in '59. Pretty sure it was available in styrene when X-EL/Johan reissued promos in the late '70s-early '80s. It's worth noting that while the model is detailed as a Classic wagon it is on the longer Ambassador wheelbase, where all the additional length is ahead of the cowl. When Juha did his '56 conversion he also shortened the front end of the car. Here's a photo of a Classic wagon that the kit is supposed to represent. Note how short the front end is. It's particularly evident behind the front wheel opening and the edge of the front door. Here's an Ambassador wagon. Notice the length of the front fenders, which is reflected in the kit. Edited May 22, 2015 by John Goschke
samdiego Posted May 25, 2015 Posted May 25, 2015 (edited) I couldn't decide between the woody or the red trim, so since you can't see both sides at the same time . . . I also took the easy way out and decided to like the chrome blacked out from the beltline up Edited May 25, 2015 by samdiego
Exotics_Builder Posted May 25, 2015 Posted May 25, 2015 Here was the last Johan rendition that I have unopened in the stash. Some of the decals for a second one made it onto my Samba Woody. Although curbside, the kit has a lot of potential.
High octane Posted May 25, 2015 Posted May 25, 2015 Yes Gerry it does have a lot of potential, as I'm thinkin' slicks, straight axle, blower & injectors stickin' out of the hood, etc.
Exotics_Builder Posted May 25, 2015 Posted May 25, 2015 Yes Gerry it does have a lot of potential, as I'm thinkin' slicks, straight axle, blower & injectors stickin' out of the hood, etc. That would certainly be an interesting option!!
Luc Janssens Posted May 25, 2015 Posted May 25, 2015 Time sure flies, was at I-hobby when Okey released this kit, he even went to the Hobby Heaven party Dean and I organized....If I knew then what I know now....
DaveM Posted May 25, 2015 Posted May 25, 2015 With the dark tinted green glass, I'm thinking the last release would make a great custom cruiser. Picture it cleaned up a bit (no woodgrain) hunkered down a bit over some 15 or 16 inch rims with some decent rubber (Not rubberbands) and either black, or a very dark blue with the chrome really shining. I'm thinking of the kind of car that looks best at night. I've been looking at it lately. Might be a fun, quick build. I won't do until until I am sure I have a couple of the new ones, though.
jbwelda Posted May 26, 2015 Posted May 26, 2015 that roof line sure looks funny to me. I realize there is a curve to it in the real car, in fact it looks kind of tacked on in the photos above, but the model just looks like a cartoon up there. Surfs Up for real. and part of it may be that roof rack not fitting like it does on the real thing. nice model but the roof just looks goofy. jb
Rob Hall Posted May 26, 2015 Posted May 26, 2015 (edited) The roofline oddness is the result of taking a 4dr sedan w/ a sloping roofline, sloping rear doors and making a wagon from it.. I guess AMC didn't have the funds to design different rear doors w/ squared upper frames and a flat full length roof... Edited May 26, 2015 by Rob Hall
Danno Posted May 27, 2015 Posted May 27, 2015 that roof line sure looks funny to me. I realize there is a curve to it in the real car, in fact it looks kind of tacked on in the photos above, but the model just looks like a cartoon up there. Surfs Up for real. and part of it may be that roof rack not fitting like it does on the real thing. nice model but the roof just looks goofy. jb That's the way Rambler rolled. Maybe that's why they didn't sell enough of them to stay in business.
charlie8575 Posted May 27, 2015 Posted May 27, 2015 Actually, around here, from what Dad's said, Ambassadors, and Ramblers generally sold very well. I would hazard a guess that the difference in wheelbase is the amount to shorten the chassis? Anyone actually try shortening it that isn't Juha? That man does stuff you're not supposed to be able to do. Charlie Larkin
John Goschke Posted May 27, 2015 Posted May 27, 2015 I would hazard a guess that the difference in wheelbase is the amount to shorten the chassis? Anyone actually try shortening it that isn't Juha? That man does stuff you're not supposed to be able to do. Yep, that'd be the way to do it. Shorten the chassis, hood, and fenders nine scale inches in front of the cowl. Standard Rambler was 108"wb, Ambassador was 117".
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