thatjellyfish Posted February 18, 2015 Posted February 18, 2015 Hi all. I'm going to use dupli-colour automotive paint on my model, and want to use a gloss clear coat. Will any clear coat work or should I get a particular type?
Custom Mike Posted February 18, 2015 Posted February 18, 2015 The safest bet is to use Dupli-Color's Clear, it's good stuff, and you won't have to worry about any reactions between the color and clear. If you're using Dupli-Color paints, you need to use a Primer/Sealer before laying down the colors, they're hotter than normal paints and will burn the styrene body!
thatjellyfish Posted February 18, 2015 Author Posted February 18, 2015 Thanks, I did do a model a while ago with the same brand paint, and used the same type of primer for it that I got now, and it works fine. Thank you. Just been reading bout futura/pledge as a clear coat, will that work??
Jantrix Posted February 18, 2015 Posted February 18, 2015 Thanks, I did do a model a while ago with the same brand paint, and used the same type of primer for it that I got now, and it works fine. Thank you. Just been reading bout futura/pledge as a clear coat, will that work?? Yes. Future is an acrylic and will safely go over anything.
gtx6970 Posted February 18, 2015 Posted February 18, 2015 I've used both Duplicolor and Upol clears over Duplicolor base coats and no issues with either one.
StevenGuthmiller Posted February 18, 2015 Posted February 18, 2015 Been using the Duplicolor clear lately with good results. Although, I have had "fogging" issues in the past, I've not had that problem as of late. I think it may have been more of an issue with base coats or humidity than the clear itself. Steve
jwrass Posted February 19, 2015 Posted February 19, 2015 Allen, I do 1:1 custom painting and I never cross breed materials I always stick with one manufactures product from start to finish. It is my experience and feeling that, that is best practice. I think duplicolor makes a fine product for modeling (I personally would not use it on 1:1) I would definitely say use Duplicolor clear over your Duplicolor ground coat.
1hobby1 Posted February 19, 2015 Posted February 19, 2015 (edited) I use Duplicolor for my models and from my personal experience Testors clear coat as well as Rustoleum Acrylic Enamel clear coat give good results. The Rustoleum is a thicker clear coat and really only needs 2 coats and works great (very tough stuff). I know I'm cross breeding products but I have had good results with both. I have also heard good things about the "newer" Duplicolor clear coat as well. I simply haven't tried it yet because I still have a full can of both the Testors and Rustoleum . Once those are empty I will most likely give the Duplicolor a try. Edited February 19, 2015 by 1hobby1
Mike_G Posted February 19, 2015 Posted February 19, 2015 I started using Duplicolor clear when TS-13 was unavailable, it works pretty well but not as good as TS-13 (at least for me)
Ramfins59 Posted February 19, 2015 Posted February 19, 2015 I've used Duplicolor's Clearcoat for years over both Duplicolor and Tamiya paints and never had any problems. Just don't spray it on in too heavy a coat causing runs. Put 2 or 3 good coats over your paint, let it dry for a couple of days and you're good to go for using a polishing kit.
Hawk312 Posted February 19, 2015 Posted February 19, 2015 I have used Duplicolor clear over Duplicolor, Tamiya, and Testors Custom Lacquer series. In fact, the Big Scale Beauty car in my sig was Duplicolor Black with Tamiya French Blue topped with Duplicolor clear, if memory serves me. The only issues I have had was in some instances, if I would use Duplicolor colors for stripes over Testors lacquer lacquer, sometimes the Duplicolor color would "pull away" from the masked line, and it wouldn`t be straight after applying the Duplicolor clear.
Custom Mike Posted February 20, 2015 Posted February 20, 2015 (edited) Been using the Duplicolor clear lately with good results. Although, I have had "fogging" issues in the past, I've not had that problem as of late. I think it may have been more of an issue with base coats or humidity than the clear itself. Steve Steven, what you're getting is "blushing", caused by humidity. Being that I live in the South, and only 30 minutes from the Atlantic Ocean, I deal with this issue on just about every paint job I do, with the only exception being Urethanes. Here's how you get around that little issue with ease! Grab a space heater and keep it plugged in and ready when you're painting. Once you've laid down your paint, get the body/part near the heater and you can "burn" the blushing out using the heater. Don't get too close, keep the body/part a safe distance but close enough that you can feel the heat, and keep moving it to keep from melting it. After about 10 seconds, the blushing should be completely gone, and you're ready for your next coats! Repeat as needed until you're done painting! Edited February 20, 2015 by Custom Mike
StevenGuthmiller Posted February 20, 2015 Posted February 20, 2015 (edited) Steven, what you're getting is "blushing", caused by humidity. Being that I live in the South, and only 30 minutes from the Atlantic Ocean, I deal with this issue on just about every paint job I do, with the only exception being Urethanes. Here's how you get around that little issue with ease! Grab a space heater and keep it plugged in and ready when you're painting. Once you've laid down your paint, get the body/part near the heater and you can "burn" the blushing out using the heater. Don't get too close, keep the body/part a safe distance but close enough that you can feel the heat, and keep moving it to keep from melting it. After about 10 seconds, the blushing should be completely gone, and you're ready for your next coats! Repeat as needed until you're done painting! I live in Minnesota where there's virtually no humidity at all in the winter months, & in the summer I'm painting in an air conditioned room. I've had minor fogging or blushing incidents in the past with Duplicolor paints, but usually nothing that couldn't be polished out. The major problems seam to have been due to primer or something. I was using Testors lacquer primers for a while, followed by MCW paint, but when I clear coated with Duplicolor clear, rather than blushing, it looked under magnification as though the primer was "leaching" up through the paint. Something that couldn't be polished out. I've had my fill of Testors Lacquer paints, primers & clear coats & have completely given up on them. If anyone is a fan of Testors lacquers, you may want to leave the room now as I vent my frustrations with them. When I first started using them, I thought they were great, although I stayed away from the metallics just because the metal flakes in them are just hugely out of scale! Then there was the issue with the primer I just mentioned & others I won't. The clear coat seemed to work well for me......for a while. Then suddenly I started having major cracking issues which after a while I decided was due to the slower curing properties it has as apposed to a fast drying Duplicolor. It seems the final coat, in a multi-coat system, were drying slower than successive coats causing the top coat to crack. Any way, sorry about the rant but I really feel let down by the Testors lacquers & clears & will not return to using them. Steve Edited February 20, 2015 by StevenGuthmiller
mavtoy Posted February 23, 2015 Posted February 23, 2015 (edited) While talking about Dupli-color---> clear what do you all think is a good time frame between clear coats ? .....my last car I let it set all night after putting base color coat down then the next day put clear on and in 15 minuets put second coat on. Edited February 23, 2015 by mavtoy
StevenGuthmiller Posted February 23, 2015 Posted February 23, 2015 With Duplicolor, I'm not shy about re-coating after about 15 minutes. I like to give it a little time between coats to gas out, but re-coating doesn't seem to be an issue like I had with Testors. By the way, be warned, Duplicolor clear & Alclad don't play well together. Found that out the hard way! Steve
mavtoy Posted February 23, 2015 Posted February 23, 2015 Thanks for the tips Steven Dupli-color paint always works for me so I am staying with the clear for it and hopefully no issues
Longbox55 Posted February 23, 2015 Posted February 23, 2015 I've been using Duplicolor clear, too. If you have an airbrush or a small touch up gun, the Paint Shop clear is the best deal. Quart can for about $25 at most parts stores. Meijer is also currently carrying it, but they might be phasing it out as they have it on clearance (they cleared out all their automotive sprays, too). I've tested in on just about all of the common hobby finishes, even Testors enamel and Tamiya acrylic, without any ill effects. They also have an acrylic lacquer clear in a spry can that lays now very nice. I originally got it for a different 1:1 project, but tried on a body and was very pleased with the final product. Very smooth, didn't even need a polishing afterwards.
StevenGuthmiller Posted February 23, 2015 Posted February 23, 2015 I've been using Duplicolor clear, too. If you have an airbrush or a small touch up gun, the Paint Shop clear is the best deal. Quart can for about $25 at most parts stores. Meijer is also currently carrying it, but they might be phasing it out as they have it on clearance (they cleared out all their automotive sprays, too). I've tested in on just about all of the common hobby finishes, even Testors enamel and Tamiya acrylic, without any ill effects. They also have an acrylic lacquer clear in a spry can that lays now very nice. I originally got it for a different 1:1 project, but tried on a body and was very pleased with the final product. Very smooth, didn't even need a polishing afterwards. I bought a quart of the "Paint Shop Clear" a couple of weeks ago & have yet to try it. I'll give it a go very soon. If it works out, I'll have enough clear coat to last me a while! Steve
Quick GMC Posted February 25, 2015 Posted February 25, 2015 I bought a quart of the "Paint Shop Clear" a couple of weeks ago & have yet to try it. I'll give it a go very soon. If it works out, I'll have enough clear coat to last me a while! Steve That's what I have been using lately, it's so easy to use and water thin. Sands and polishes nicely too. This stuff? http://i.imgur.com/dwMn8cY.jpg This is over a basecoat http://i.imgur.com/CKEiYSg.jpg?1
StevenGuthmiller Posted February 25, 2015 Posted February 25, 2015 That's what I have been using lately, it's so easy to use and water thin. Sands and polishes nicely too. This stuff? http://i.imgur.com/dwMn8cY.jpg This is over a basecoat http://i.imgur.com/CKEiYSg.jpg?1 Looks pretty nice Cameron! I still have a can or so of Duplicolor spray to use up, so I may try laying down a couple of coats of that followed by the "Paint Shop" stuff on my next project. The spray cans seem to work fairly nicely but really don't give the "gloss" I had hoped for. Steve
Tom Geiger Posted February 27, 2015 Posted February 27, 2015 . By the way, be warned, Duplicolor clear & Alclad don't play well together. Found that out the hard way! Nor do Duplicolor clear and black Sharpie! Yea, that combo cost me!
Longbox55 Posted February 27, 2015 Posted February 27, 2015 Really, any lacquer or even enamel based colors and clears do bad over Alclad.
StevenGuthmiller Posted February 27, 2015 Posted February 27, 2015 Really, any lacquer or even enamel based colors and clears do bad over Alclad. I've sprayed Testors clear over Alclad with no issues. But, then again, I was using Alclad aluminum & not chrome. I was going for an aluminum look. Steve
crowe-t Posted April 8, 2022 Posted April 8, 2022 On 2/25/2015 at 3:03 PM, Quick GMC said: That's what I have been using lately, it's so easy to use and water thin. Sands and polishes nicely too. This stuff? http://i.imgur.com/dwMn8cY.jpg This is over a basecoat http://i.imgur.com/CKEiYSg.jpg?1 How has the Duplicolor Paint Shop Clear worked out over time? Does it hold it's shine? Does it keep reducing down? I found that the hobby clear lacquers tend to reduce down for a very long time but that could be lacquer in general.
Rbray47 Posted April 11, 2022 Posted April 11, 2022 Which exact primers are you guys using under the Duplicolor? I've used Duplicolor in the past with great results, but my primer was 20ish year old Plasitcote that I don't think is available now.
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